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Talk me into going for the "box of 20"

mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
I'm going to keep my halfdime collection and build it more BUT the 15,000 other coins that I have need to go.

What's the Philosophy, Strategy, Motivation, explanation and or other reason behind this collecting approach?

Do I take my top favorite 20 coins, box them, dump the rest then just concentrate on the 20 coins that catch my eye? Do I sell one before I can add one or can you briefly be at "21"? Do I dump all the coins and start with an empty box?

What did you do? how do you approach it?

What's in YOUR box of 20?

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  • zrlevinzrlevin Posts: 734 ✭✭✭
    I never got to 15,000, but I was at about 150 or so when I decided they needed to go. My type set wasn't doing anything for me anymore, and I felt that the money (which was significant for me) could be better used elsewhere. I listed my type coins and a number of others for sale on my website. I kept my circulated commem set, favorites from the type set and a few others I really liked. My "core collection" now consists of 8 coins, one of which is really bullion but is a type I have always wanted.

    I'm not necessarily doing a "box of 20", but I found no reason to keep coins I didn't like on their individual merits.
    Zach
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why get rid of anything?
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • Who says you have to stop at one Box of Twenty? Pick out your absolute favorite 20 coins and put them in a box and see what you have left. You might start a second Box of Twenty. You seem to have lost interest in your current set but don't get rid of something and in a year or two decide, "Hey, I wish I still had that coin." Think through your actions.

    Good Luck,
    Ron
    Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a box of 20. And a dozen other boxes of 100 or so.

    I think I get the "focus thing". But there's just no way I could be happy with just 20 coins to enjoy, as wonderful as each may be.

    It's such fun to pull out a box I haven't looked at in years, and go through them one at a time. The missus says I really know how to kill time. What a horrible saying. I am immersed in time, I figure.

    Sell me the top 20 that don't make your box of 20. image
    Lance.
  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    I might be interested in helping you get rid of a few of the coins!

    -D
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

    -Aristotle

    Dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas. Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.

    -Horace
  • 15,000 down to 20? Perhaps, the middle road of moderation is another option. I doubt a hoarder/accumulator that acquired so many coins over time will find much joy in a single box of 20 coins. There is no right or wrong answer. Collect what you like and enjoy the hobby. If that means 20,000 coins, there is nothing inherently wrong with that if it brings a person joy (though the storage might be an issue).


  • TevaTeva Posts: 830
    You will just replace them save yourself the leg work.image
    Give the laziest man the toughest job and he will find the easiest way to get it done.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Spend those SHQs and Prez bux rolls image
    15,000 is a lot....but, do what makes you happy.

    When we were getting out of SAEs (we still have raw and in the album but got rid of most of the graded ones), even the toned ones, we went through and kept the couple that we liked the best. Sold the rest.

    Other than that, I/we have a "no plans on selling", "don't want to sell", and "well, these are dupes and we could sell if I ever got off my butt".
    The ones that are my son's, from board members, go into the "not selling".
    The ones that would be harder to replace (toned and somewhat unique that way), go into the "don't want to sell".
    Others could be gotten rid of but just haven't gotten there.

    So, no box of 20. I don't believe in that, but you should do what you want to do.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As many on here know, I am a proponent of the "box of 20" method of collecting.

    But this topic has been discussed many times on this forum...you should do a search and read some of the threads. They are often pretty funny.

    Here is what I said in one of those previous threads:

    Do NOT focus on the number.

    Focus instead on the idea of making sure every coin in your collection is the best you can obtain and afford.

    The box of 20 concept enables you to ensure that each coin in your collection is at least equal to the others...it is a "less is more" concept for collectors who believe that having fewer, higher quality coins is better than having many lower quality coins.

    But again, do NOT focus on the number. For example, if you collect classic commemoratives and it takes 50 coins for a basic silver type set, then your box of 20 becomes a box of 50.

    But, by limiting your collection to the lowest number of coins necessary, you focus your buying on coins that improve your set. If your set of 50 silver classic commemmoratives is complete, then you must sell a coin to add a coin. Therefore, you force yourself to make sure that any coin you are considering will actually be an improvement over what you already have.

    Do NOT focus on the number.

    By the way, I hope to have a box of 372 when I'm done building my type set of pedigreed colonial coins.

    image
  • I'm kicking around the notion of selling much of my coins and some bullion and buying what I hope to God are some investment coins, particularly a 1907 high relief Saint with another coin or two in the back of mind.

    So I may end up with a box of one or two or three. It appeals me to either make some money in 10 or 20 years rather than hold stuff that probably won't.

    John
    Coin Photos

    Never view my other linked pages. They aren't coin related.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The box of twenty introduces mental discipline on your collecting.

    Instead of trying to collect a long series or any anything that catches

    your fancy you know that you have just 20 places for coins. This forces

    you to really thing hard as to the appropriate coin for a space. When full,

    You will have to sell a coin before you buy a coin.



    As for the collecting philosophy, you can collect keys, type in say half dollars

    or type across several series or even spectacular coins with spectacular looks

    and or toning. This approach also can save you money as you will not be able

    to buy a mish mash of coins that may be hard to sell. Decide on the grade of a coin,

    that will provide you with the quality you like at a price you can afford.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭✭
    many is the time i have owned 20 or fewer coins (no box, heck no plastic for that matter)


    just make sure your numismatic library never has fewer than 20 titles in it!! this is MUCH more important in my opinion

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • HalfStrikeHalfStrike Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭
    I would rather own a box of 20 coins with the same value vs. a crate of 15,000 coins. It is easier to value and also easier to sell a few if you have to.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I have often thought about keeping a Box of Twenty
    when I sold off my collection. I have been hard pressed to
    decide which 20 coins I would keep until I hit the Shady Acres
    Nursing Home.

    While at the ANA, there was a booth that sold Burl Wood Attache Cases;
    the case contains four trays of eight slabs each. The dealers' booth was
    four away from my table, so I passed it quite often. The last day of the ANA,
    I finally broke down and bought one.

    Now, I'm harder pressed to decide which 32 coins I'll keep image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would keep my SDB down to a "box of 20" had the mint at Charlotte only produced QEs or just $1's, but because of contingencies that were out of my control (and because the mountain & piedmont population preferred Half Eagles in exchange for their gold bullion), it'll have to be a "box of 52"... plus another 10-12 to accommodate an early (Turban Head) Half Eagle and Eagle, or two, or three...

    'dude
    Got Crust....y gold?
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I have never liked the Box of 20 concept. Just last week I needed to pull several different pieces out
    for a talk. I brought in a corroded Roman sestertius, a British twopence from 1797, a USA twenty cent
    piece and two cent piece, a Russian 5 Kopek, and several more. All of these coins are able to be
    handled by non-collectors, a fact that my audience loved. Having several hundred coins like these is,
    to me, what being a coin collector is all about. A single box of 20 coins in slabs leaves me cold.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hell, you can still fill a box of 20 really nice 1885-o toned Morgans without much trouble. Why someone would accumulate in such a limited way and still call himself/herself a collector is beyond me.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭
    Wow, I could never limit myself to just 20 coins. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like fun converting 15,000 so-so coins into twenty special coins. Should make for a lot of time on eBay, trips to coin shops, and of course you will have to make it to a show every few months.
    I think I would start by making a list of my TOP hundred or so coins to shoot for and developing a selling tactic to pay for them. Can narrow the focus as the numbers get smaller it will take some time unless those 15,000 are mostly going to go into a coin star machine. And even if many of them do go that route that is OK accumulations can become collections.
    BTW my aim is a little more limited I just want to get my 15,000 down to about a thousand or so. And yes I still have those rolls of Presiz bucks to get rid of and the coffee cans of cents and nickels from the roll searches.
    Have fun and IMO thats what it is all about.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    My box holds about 60 and I'm sticking to it. Only have about 30 in it though.
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would never (the good Lord willing) go for a box of 20. There are WAY too many interesting designs out there, not to mention the toning on those designs and the fun of putting together a series you really like. However, 15,000 does sound over the top to me. I would try and keep it under 500, some slabbed some not. I have thought about what I would put in a box of 20 if that was all I could keep. A couple years ago I created a thread here with pictures of the coins that I would keep in my BoXX. In the intervening 2 years I would have switched out a couple of the coins, but the vast majority of the grouping still stands. Here's the thread with the pix of the coins:


    My box of 20 coins, with pictures.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭✭
    do what you want but why get rid of anything. maybe you could do a swap of some kind as well to ya know. jmo
  • FilamCoinsFilamCoins Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭

    Box of 137.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    go 4 it.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • I have six or seven boxes of twenty, there are just too many great coins and tokens!image Buy what you like, if you really feel that your collection needs focus or downsizing, start selling the low end stuff, no matter how good it is, stop when you're happy.
  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    Mike,

    There is no way you will ever get to a box of 20, or 32, or 300. You are addicted to coins, and would feel very lonely without all your children.

    If one is through putting together sets, and would really like to downsize, and you eyes are going, and you only want 1 small safe deposit box, rather than 3 big ones, then go for it.

    But in the meantime, the only way one becomes proficient at grading, and know the market for a series, is to do the complete series, whichever it is. That knowledge is irreplaceable, and the warm feeling off doing it is lost--if you only have a box of twenty from the start.

    JMHO
    TahoeDale

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