I don't mind best offers, but

diamondman · June 26, 2010 8:14AM

I don't mind best offers, but , does anyone beside me think that it is rude to offer like 30% to 37.5 % of asking price?
both items are listed at 200 or less. oh well maybe one of these days someone will actually off over 50%. (looking for 65% or better), but at least it would be closer. oh well enough ranting and raving. merry new year & a happy christmas.

Mickey71 · June 26, 2010 8:54AM

Depends on how you're pricing things. Some dealers price things at 300% VCP. If your pricing is fair to begin with then 30% is in fact rude.

swartz1 · June 26, 2010 8:59AM

If you are accepting best offers you need to be prepared for the real low ballers...

it works for them sometimes...

so why not try it?

when you begin negotiations you dont start high, right?

diamondman · June 26, 2010 9:13AM

<< If you are accepting best offers you need to be prepared for the real low ballers...

it works for them sometimes...

so why not try it?

when you begin negotiations you dont start high, right? >>

No if I am negotiating and I want it, I start somewhere between 50 to 60 % and work from there, but if the person has an item that the most I would offer is 25 %, I don't even bother offering, and when I get low ball offers I at least counter offer with the hope that they really are interested, but usually with a 30 to 40% offer and I counter offer I don't even get a Thanks but no thanks. oh well instead of trying to price it fair , maybe I should just offer it at 300% of what I am willing to take and hope for a 30% offer. just bored and figured I would complain about something.

swartz1 · June 26, 2010 9:17AM

I hear what you are saying...

the low ballers dont "really want" the card...

they want to flip it...

I am right with ya

earlycalguy · June 26, 2010 9:25AM

just use the feature you auto decline offers below a certain amount. then you never see the offers you don't want to

Dboneesq · June 26, 2010 9:26AM

Hey,this guy agrees with you as well!

Smuggo · June 26, 2010 9:45AM

I am sorry to say but 30% of many, many ebay BINs is more than a fair offer.

VitoCo1972 · June 26, 2010 9:48AM

just auto-reject offers less than 50%. there, problem solved.

digicat · June 26, 2010 9:58AM

Back when PSA 10 Trevor Hoffman RC's were selling for around $35, some guy had one listed for $100. I offered $35, and was not only declined, but BBL'ed as well. I guess he was "offended" by my offer.

WalterSobchak · June 26, 2010 10:15AM

My assumption as a buyer is always that the seller is not going to even consider a best offer that is less than 50% of the BIN. So if I would not start by offering at least that amount, I don't make an offer at all.
Typically my first offer is between 60-80% of the BIN.

To answer your question, no- I don't find an offer of any amount to be rude. If I'm the seller and someone offers me 10% of the BIN, I'm certainly not going to take it- but it wouldn't bother me at all.

*edited for grammar*

otwcards · June 26, 2010 10:19AM

Auto decline eliminates you SEEING and having to DEAL with the low ball offers. It will never get rid of them, it just keeps you from having to get your undies in a bundle...

SDSportsFan · June 26, 2010 10:31AM

Here's a best offer situation I was in just this past week:

A couple weeks ago, a card was listed with a starting bid of $40.....it ended with no bids.

A day or two after it ended, the seller put it back up with a BIN of $75, with best offers accepted.

The card in question is from a set I'm working on. The cards typically go for $10 or less. A couple cards from the set did sell just last month for $17-$18 (they were the two cards I bid on

, and no I didn't win them - I was the underbidder).

I sent a best offer of $20 on the card. I thought this was more than fair, since this price does exceed the price any other card from the set has sold for over the past year.

The seller came back and submitted a counter-offer of $30 on the card.....this is 40% of the listed BIN price of the card.

I'm now mulling over whether I should bite the bullet on it. The set has 50 cards, and I currently have 40 of them.

Steve

diamondman · June 26, 2010 10:33AM

<< Back when PSA 10 Trevor Hoffman RC's were selling for around $35, some guy had one listed for $100. I offered $35, and was not only declined, but BBL'ed as well. I guess he was "offended" by my offer. >>

yes there are some BIN that 30% would be more than fair. there are also BIN where 80% would be fair. depends on the seller, myself I try to do my research and get in the ballpark. with your example I would have priced hoffman at 59.95 w/BO and probably took somewhere between 30-45. but that is just me. There are also unique or oddball items that you just have to guess on price.

I had this item that I just sold at auction, I had no clue of fair market, in the latest 1997 price guide I had, it said NM 15.00 VG 4.50, I would grade it g-vg, so I started the auction off at 9.99. the auction ended at 110.00 (blew my mind). Also had a HOFer psa 9 card
VCP average 215, started at 99 cents , set all time VCP low and sold for 116.00. (ouch).

I am just rambling, but there are the sellers that price close to fair market with BO, and still get the lowballers offering 20 to 30%.
I am just annoyed and strapped for beer & cash and can't understand why nobody makes any offers on my 1987 Topps raw Barry bonds Rc with a BIN of 149.99, I mean I would take 5% offer and give free shipping. LOL

clayshooter22 · June 26, 2010 10:35AM

<< My assumption as a buyer is always that the seller is not going to even consider a best offer that is less than 50% of the BIN. So if I would not start by offering at least that amount, I don't make an offer at all.
Typically my first offer is between 60-80% of the BIN.

To answer your question, no- I don't find an offer of any amount to be rude. If I'm the seller and someone offers me 10% of the BIN, I'm certainly not going to take it- but it wouldn't bother me at all.

*edited for grammar* >>

I'm not saying this is a bad idea but it is the reason many items are listed at 300% of a fair selling price...they hope some sucker will offer 50% of the BIN.

Any situation depends on how close the BIN is to a realistic selling price.

Mike

otwcards · June 26, 2010 10:58AM

And then there are those "buyers" that bypass the BIN and email you directly.

While sometimes this is fine, I just had one buyer give me more than an earful last week. I had posted some of my Harrisburg Senators PSA 10's for sale. The first wave went quickly, so I posted two more with higher prices. Again, one went quickly and the other ended although I had a late flurry of Best Offers.

Anyway, I relisted it and one of the previous bidders sent me an email asking why I won't accept his offer as it is the same that I got for the first batch that I sold albeit $20 less than I got on the later listing. I explained that I sold them before a price had been established and that I felt that the current market was around $100 per (which was borne out soon as the last one sold).

After it sold, I got another email from the bidder saying, "Its gready bayers like you that make it so none else can buy to sell to make profit anymore. Thanks for nothin."

While I should've just let it go, I responded with, "So, I should sacrifice my profit margins so that you can make more profit on my effort and foresight? If that makes me "gready" then slap by ass and color me purple . . . Enjoy the hobby!"

SDSportsFan · June 26, 2010 11:29AM

<< then slap my ass and color me purple . . . Enjoy the hobby!" >>

Steve

Yankees001 · June 26, 2010 11:38AM

I made a seller an offer on a card today of less than 50% and he took it.

He wanted $20 for a 2008 Johnny Mize PSA 9, I offered $7 ($5 for the card = $2 Shipping) He took it.

It just depends on how unreasonable the seller is when listing it.

Some time ago I was selling a lot of 6 Rube Marquard 3X5 auto's BIN $75. Someone sent an offer of $10. They sell for at least $10 each.

I just set up my listing to decline any offer below a certain price, it helps to avoid all the stupid offers.

Make it easy on yourself.

Dave

SidePocket · June 26, 2010 11:48AM

eBay can certainly be frustrating but bids are similar to BIN prices - they can be stupid or reasonable. I would just ignore and not lose any sleep over it since it works both ways.

divecchia · June 26, 2010 12:04PM

As someone else already stated, it depends on if the price of the BIN is in line will VCP or if it is way above VCP. I just bought a card the other day for less than 40% of the BIN price and I offered $25 more than VCP. The sellers price was more than 3 times VCP and that is probably why he accepted.

Donato

alnavman · June 27, 2010 1:04AM

<< Hey,this guy agrees with you as well!

>>

now that's a glass of beer I could enjoy today....it's supposed to be over 90 here in the Cleveland area.....al.

I don't mind best offers, but

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