Is ANACS sticking with those awful new slabs?
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The old mini holders were really cool but these new ones look like 3rd world country. I actually cracked out a WLH holder by mistake while inspecting one. They have by far the ugliest slabs of any TPG. How long are the commitments to them?
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The yellows slabs look horrible, my guess is the one who came up with them must have been color blind.
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<< <i>anyone got a pic of them? >>
Just look on eBay and pull up an ANACS slab. More than likely, it will be the newer slab. Or, go to their website and you will see it there. I don't think they are that bad. The color is a bit different, but not horrible.
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<< <i>anyone got a pic of them? >>
Just look on eBay and pull up an ANACS slab. More than likely, it will be the newer slab. Or, go to their website and you will see it there. I don't think they are that bad. The color is a bit different, but not horrible. >>
They should have stuck with the light blue -- those looked OK.
<< <i>I collect errors in the little white slabs. I will never break one out. There are some great errors in the old slabs as they were the go to company for errors.
The yellows slabs look horrible, my guess is the one who came up with them must have been color blind. >>
Those old white ones are great. I wont get into the politics of the grading quality between the differnet time periods as I dont really know, but purely on aethetics the new slabs just make me dislike the coin inside.
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I would choose a different color for the label, though.
The new ones are clearly better than the old white ones.
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the manufacturing process left a tiny amount of residue on the opening, which over time caused some
coins to tone around the edges. The seal was not all that tight, either, allowing air and moisture into
the holder.
The "Space Age" blue holders, which were the first iteration after Anderson Press bought ANACS, had
sealing problems. These could be broken apart easily with a quick twist, and also allowed air and
moisture to penetrate the holder.
The most recent ANACS holder features a much tighter seal, along with stronger shells. I understand
that some collectors like the old blue labels over the new gold labels, but I actually like the gold color better.
It is more pleasing to my eye, and the print stands out better. I think the coin inside the holder will have
a better chance of surviving unchanged over the next 20 years, also, and that is a much more important
feature than the color of the label.
This is like doing a comparison of all of PCGS' holders. While I might like the older holders (except for the
version with the separate plastic ring around the periphery -- those tend to cut my fingers!), I have to
admit that the most recent version is easily the best for both presentation purposes, and for the protection
of the coin.
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<< <i>They're sticking with them until they decide to change them. >>
I like the look of them. I just am not a big fan of their grading.
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as a questionable design becomes even more hideous. I do prefer the older white slab for that reason and for asthetics.
In the end, NGC and PCGS have such better quality slabs asthetically and optics-wise.
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So, yes they are relevant.
I don't think they are important but they should not be completely ingored either.
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<< <i>They're sticking with them until they decide to change them. >>
I like the look of them. I just am not a big fan of their grading. >>
From my experience, for classic MS and circulated coins, there grading seems to be consistent with PCGS and NGC. The only general exception I have noted is that they may net grade for light hairlines more often than the top 2 instead of no-grading the coin. However, I have had coins no-graded by ANACS that graded at PCGS/NGC.
I have heard thier grading of moderns might be a bit generous, but I don't collect moderns so I have no first hand knowledge of that.
ICG is a different story, and I have no comment.
<< <i>I concur with a comment mentioned above that the new ANACS slabs do not stack well. >>
They stack perfectly, they have grooves that make them sort of fit one into the other and are probably the easiest to stack of any slab out there.
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<< <i>The only coins I get slabbed are my VAM discovery pieces. ANACS will label the coin as a discovery piece where PCGS and NGC will not. Yeah, ICG and SEGS do discovery pieces, but I prefer ANACS. As for the slabs, I prefer the old, small white holders. I liked the blue labels (2 versions ago) and while I like the slab, hate the insert on the neon yellow holders. >>
Yes, those are my sentiments as well. I like the current plastic slab design (curved-top, flat-bottom). But I'm not crazy about the "Harvest Gold" inserts. That's why I have my own ANACS label
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<< <i>The only coins I get slabbed are my VAM discovery pieces. ANACS will label the coin as a discovery piece where PCGS and NGC will not. Yeah, ICG and SEGS do discovery pieces, but I prefer ANACS. As for the slabs, I prefer the old, small white holders. I liked the blue labels (2 versions ago) and while I like the slab, hate the insert on the neon yellow holders. >>
Yes, those are my sentiments as well. I like the current plastic slab design (curved-top, flat-bottom). But I'm not crazy about the "Harvest Gold" inserts. That's why I have my own ANACS label
That's a cool label. They should hire you to re-design their standard label.
<< <i>I kinda like this one, sorta space age design and I like being able to read the top of the lable without having to pull them from the box.
I still pick up nicely toned, accurately graded Morgans in those OWH to this day...
But they are far & few between...
I'll always keep a few coins in those holders not for their value, but for the history of the slab itself...
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<< <i>ANACS is a lesso in if it ain't broken don't fix it. They had the perfect little tough , hard, white holder ad differet at that ad threw it away along with their high standards, what a shame. >>
The small white holders were a serious security risk. They often could be cracked open cleanly along the seam and the coin swapped.
<< <i>Serioulsy is ANACS relevant anymore, just a question? >>
But they weren't perfect, as several have pointed out, they could result in undesireable toning , as I suspect may have happened w/ the linked item.
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<< <i>Serioulsy is ANACS relevant anymore, just a question? >>
I've seen NGC and PCGS coins mass-marketed on TV. So what ?
We've all seen recent examples of PCGS coins going bad in the holders (due to doctoring),
which of course, PCGS made good on their guarantee. Why didn't PCGS notice the fake
metal applied to that Standing Liberty Quarter head ? The grading services are not infallible.
That's why they have a guarantee. ANACS is still relevant because they have a guarantee
as well.
<< <i>ANACS is a lesso in if it ain't broken don't fix it. They had the perfect little tough , hard, white holder ad differet at that ad threw it away along with their high standards, what a shame. >>
So you think ANACS is the only one who "threw away" their high standards ?
Have you not seen the grade inflation that has occured in the industry since those little white slabs were discontinued ?
I'm thinking about the leader in grade inflation, and it isn't ANACS.
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<< <i>ANACS is a lesso in if it ain't broken don't fix it. They had the perfect little tough , hard, white holder ad differet at that ad threw it away along with their high standards, what a shame. >>
So you think ANACS is the only one who "threw away" their high standards ?
Have you not seen the grade inflation that has occured in the industry since those little white slabs were discontinued ?
I'm thinking about the leader in grade inflation, and it isn't ANACS. >>
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<< <i>ANACS is a lesso in if it ain't broken don't fix it. They had the perfect little tough , hard, white holder ad differet at that ad threw it away along with their high standards, what a shame. >>
The small white holders were a serious security risk. They often could be cracked open cleanly along the seam and the coin swapped. >>
News to me, can you please provide previous threads that stated the same experiences. >>
I've had that issues with NGC slabs but have never had that issue with the old white ANACS slabs.
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But as for you who do not care for there grading I do not agree.
I have recently crossed over four ANACS to PCGS two were in old white holders one was in the blue second generation holder
and the other was in a new gereration yellow holder.
1872 IH AU50 BN crossed to PCGS AU50
1879 IH MS63 RB upgraded to MS64 RB PCGS
1827 Large cent VF 30 crossed PCGS VF30
1904 IH MS63 RB upgraded PCGS MS64 RB.
So I am not so sure that the criticism is deserved.
I collect copper so I can not speak to there treatment of coins that are not copper and I did not buy the plastic I bought the coin.
Just my two cents worth.