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NGCS Photo cert. 64/64. To clear B$ up in first post.Improved pics.

DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
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Coin arrived in original soft plastic sleeve from the grading company NGCS.

Cert pics suck to say the least.

I rolled the dice on toning being there, both sides.

Yes I paid the price I did gladly.

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    So what did you pay? Looks like a 64
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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan?

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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So what did you pay? Looks like a 64 >>





    $57.50


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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan? >>

    The toning is certainly in the photos of the actual coin, if not on the certificate.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think toning can occur in twenty five years. In almost any holder.
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin. Looks like a 63+ to me.

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so you are a gambler image
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan? >>

    The toning is certainly in the photos of the actual coin, if not on the certificate. >>



    Which means the coin may have been swapped earlier.

    The question is a valid one, IMO.
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    p.s. coin looks like a 63 or 64 to me, and I like the look. image
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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan? >>

    The toning is certainly in the photos of the actual coin, if not on the certificate. >>



    I can see it fine on the coin itself, but not the certificate.
    In hand it may be more obvious, hence my original question. All I can see on the certificate is a dark splotch
    near Miss Liberty's head.




    << <i>I think toning can occur in twenty five years. In almost any holder. >>



    Sure it can... but we're looking at edge toning.
    That would be a bit abnormal if it has sat in a "flip" for 25 years.

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  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    The coin looks like it would probably go MS64 at NGC or PCGS and you paid a graded (PCGS/NGC) MS64 price for an esentially raw coin so I don't understand the dice roll part of this but if you like the coin than I am happy that you picked it up image
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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually The toning is present on the cert photo but maybe not to the extent that it appears on the coin today. Look at the field area around R in Pluribus on the black and white image.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan? >>

    The toning is certainly in the photos of the actual coin, if not on the certificate. >>



    Which means the coin may have been swapped earlier.

    The question is a valid one, IMO. >>

    True. I was thinking along the lines of where a coin like that could be stored over all that time, since it wasn't in a sealed holder. Until there are better pictures of the certificate, though, there's no chance we'd be able to match marks to confirm one way or the other.
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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Actually The toning is present on the cert photo but maybe not to the extent that it appears on the coin today. Look at the field area around R in Pluribus on the black and white image. >>



    There is some evidence, but I don't see anything underneath the date on the certificate.
    On the coin, there are clearly two blobs of tone under the date that should be pretty identifiable on the cert.

    We need to OP to get back here and clear this up. image

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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Cert and coin are sealed in original soft plastic sleeve from NGCS.
    This coin is from Minnesota, cold winters,hot summers.





    << <i>I don't understand the dice roll part of this >>



    The gamble was on the toning , was it there or not.
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I don't see the edge tone in the original photo's. Are you certain it's the same morgan? >>

    The toning is certainly in the photos of the actual coin, if not on the certificate. >>



    Which means the coin may have been swapped earlier.

    The question is a valid one, IMO. >>

    True. I was thinking along the lines of where a coin like that could be stored over all that time, since it wasn't in a sealed holder. Until there are better pictures of the certificate, though, there's no chance we'd be able to match marks to confirm one way or the other. >>



    image

    Perhaps the OP, who has it in-hand, can do that comparison for us.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's the same coin.......The toning has progressed a bit though.
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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    image For whatever! image
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    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC

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