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Just bought an unopened 1939 proof box....contemplating whether or not to open it????

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Depends, did you buy it to have the box to look at or for the coins inside?
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Depends, did you buy it to have the box to look at or for the coins inside? >>



    That's probably why I never buy unopened anything...........as it would no longer be unopened once I recieved it.
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    open
    take pics
    post pics


  • << <i>open
    take pics
    post pics >>



    Correction

    take pics
    open
    take pics
    post pics
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>open
    take pics
    post pics >>



    Correction

    take pics
    open
    take pics
    post pics >>



    I stand corrected image
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heck yes, open it. Unless it is just an investment. In which case you should store it somewhere safe and never think about it again. But that would kill me.
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  • How will you know whats inside if you dont open it?

    Btw welcome to the forumimage
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    open er up, you know your going to anywaay !
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  • ClosedLoopClosedLoop Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    JUST DO IT!!!

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  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i would say open it but i to have to admit to many boxes from the mint unopened and a year ago while bidding on a box of 5 sets of 1972 proof first time i ever saw one box with 5 sets as the bidding hit 20 bucks i figured what the heck so i bid 25.00 as it turned out i was bidding on 5 sets at 25 each lol that box still sits on the shelf taunting me.............take pictures if you open would love to see image
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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    I've been buying and selling proof sets for 30 years. Never even seen a 1936-1942 box, much less an unopened one.

    Suggest you take pics of the box front and back and post for some experts to review.

    Is the box the same size as the 1950-55 boxes?

    How is it sealed.
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  • << <i>i would say open it but i to have to admit to many boxes from the mint unopened and a year ago while bidding on a box of 5 sets of 1972 proof first time i ever saw one box with 5 sets as the bidding hit 20 bucks i figured what the heck so i bid 25.00 as it turned out i was bidding on 5 sets at 25 each lol that box still sits on the shelf taunting me.............take pictures if you open would love to see image >>



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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    do you know its a us set and not some foreign set?
    was this and online purchase?
    knowing where the box came from could answer some questions too
    we all just hope you didnt get taken and there really is a `39 (us) proof set inside



  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome and post pictures here BEFORE you do anything!

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    there is a guy selling them all the time on eBay


    some of his coins are not even proof, but polished business strikes.


    I hope you know what you are doing and good luck.



    How long ago did you buy them and what type of return policy did you get?
    A grand is an awful lot of money to spend on a sealed box, with promises of riches
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    some of his coins are not even proof, but polished business strikes.

    Sure don't like the sound of that!!
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>there is a guy selling them all the time on eBay


    some of his coins are not even proof, but polished business strikes.


    I hope you know what you are doing and good luck.



    How long ago did you buy them and what type of return policy did you get?
    A grand is an awful lot of money to spend on a sealed box, with promises of riches >>

    Do your comments about polished business strikes pertain to coins sold as Proof sets in unopened boxes? If so, how do you know? And if not, how is it relevant? Thanks.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Me thinks another buyer has been had
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    as the box is "unopened" perhaps you really got a 1955 box

    opening it is the only way to know that you bought what you paid for.

    .....Otherwise I have some packages that contain 1794 mint sets that are unopened as well.

    @K!!!!the deal of the century!!!!) a box but no refunds if you open them
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    Mark, over the last year there have been many unopened proof sets from 1936-1942
    go through eBay

    some have been bought and resold as-is with picture of the box

    there was a thread were the buyer knew what proofs should look like
    and was dissapointed when he opened the set. and found the half a polished business strike
    I couldn't find that thread. but found these

    a 1941 set
    a 1940 set
    a 1938 set

    I do not know where you bought your set Archipelago, or what your plans
    for the set are

    but if you hold it unopened for 10 years, and then sell it and inside is something other than what you thought it was, what recourse do you have then?


    edit to add deathwish1fourstars was seller last fall involved with never ending unopened boxes
    unopened proof sets from deathwish1fourstars
  • Hi there,

    this seller has another 1939 unopened Proof set already on offer and a 36 and a 42. All unopened all with no pics. Who amongst us has seen an unopened boxed 1936 Proof set?

    Best,
    Eric
  • djdilliodondjdilliodon Posts: 1,938 ✭✭
    looking at his feedback it appears some have opened the set and are happy with what they found inside. Its possible the seller is legit but then again maybe the buyers have no idea what they are looking at so who really knows image
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mark, over the last year there have been many unopened proof sets from 1936-1942
    go through eBay

    some have been bought and resold as-is with picture of the box

    there was a thread were the buyer knew what proofs should look like
    and was dissapointed when he opened the set. and found the half a polished business strike
    I couldn't find that thread. but found these

    a 1941 set
    a 1940 set
    a 1938 set

    I do not know where you bought your set Archipelago, or what your plans
    for the set are

    but if you hold it unopened for 10 years, and then sell it and inside is something other than what you thought it was, what recourse do you have then?


    edit to add deathwish1fourstars was seller last fall involved with never ending unopened boxes
    unopened proof sets from deathwish1fourstars >>

    Thanks. I have seen the sets offered and threads about them, but not comments from anyone who opened one.

    By the way, for those who think that such boxes/sets don't exist - I have seen opened examples of them at coin shows. That said, I too, would be dubious of them in many instances.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    this 1942 maybe legit, box looks different than the early 50's

    image

    1942 unopened on eBay
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    HUMMM The 42 set looks like it had a sticker on it then retaped over the sticker.

    There are other signs with the tape that looks fishy
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  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    Strange that the OP is no longer posting on his own thread?

    We all make mistakes, maybe he can return it

  • usually, you dont reply to your own thread
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    these unopened Proof Sets are one of the biggest likely scams on eBay. some points to consider which have been discussed by this forum in the past with no resolution and no 100% sure answers, despite all the members who should/could know from having seen these sets in the past.

    -----noone knows for certain if the Proof Sets from 1936-1942 even shipped from the Mint in boxes.
    -----noone knows for certain what the size/shape/color/tape/markings/inner packaging of the intact Proof Sets might have been if they were shipped like that from the Mint.
    -----all the Proof Sets from this era offered on eBay are always "still sealed" from every seller.
    -----all of the sellers tend to offer the sets with no return.

    from my perspective, the sellers don't really know with certainty what a "Boxed Proof Set" from 1936-1942 is actually supposed to look like, so they naturally mimic the Boxed Sets from 1950-1955 in every way. the auctions are set up like some kind of Numismatic self-fullfilling prophecy-----the set is sold "sealed" so if you open it to check the contents there is no return permitted and leaving it "still sealed" voids any hope of uncovering the scam. i don't even consider that these 1936-1942 Sealed Proof Set auctions are legitimate, too much downside.

    until someone can come up with conclusive evidence about the packaging(if the sets were even shipped in such a manner from the Mint) i will remain skeptical.
  • The big news here is that anyone would consider dropping $1350 on an unopened box of anything. And then not open it to see what they have.

    Garrow
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. I would sure like to have som more info from the original poster.
  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    What is the down side to looking in the box?
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    downside?

    there is a premium for 'unopened box' and 'original mint packaging'



    as for the potential gem DCAMs,...
    unsearched errors, .....
    awesome toned,...


    some people buy to keep and sell
    some people buy to treasure hunt

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Open it, and when you find the disappointing contents inside, sell it on ebay as an unopened proof set with no returns if opened. That's what the last 5 people did with it.

  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The original poster needs to open it while being videotaped as was previously suggested so that he has a claim for fraud if the coins are not a proof set.

    If they are black and pitted he of course has no claim but perhaps can plead temporary numismatic insanity although I think that's not used by plaintiffs, only defendants. image
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    At a local coin show I saw an original '42 proof set still in the cellos and had a rusty staple holding all the coins together. They weren't in the original box but I felt the coins were 100% original.
    "It is what it is."
  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    << <i>downside?

    there is a premium for 'unopened box' and 'original mint packaging'



    as for the potential gem DCAMs,...
    unsearched errors, .....
    awesome toned,...


    some people buy to keep and sell
    some people buy to treasure hunt >>




    But what would you estimate that premium to be?
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  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    This has been hard because I've always wanted to purchase a 1942 proof set. I do not know what to look for when it comes to purchasing them complete. That was my father's birth year and it's a set I'd like to have original and ungraded in however they were issued from the mint [added] condition. The "unopened" proof set boxes I've seen just do not cut it for me on ebay. Aside from there and online, I've never seen these boxes for sale for the earlier 36-42 proof sets.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    premium for unopened mint stuff frequently in the 10-30% range, over average seen stuff


    if you want a 1942 proof set, I would buy one in a Capital holder with both nickels (from auction, storefront, or show)


    or possibly buy in major slab piecemeal, as acquisition costs spread over time

    as stated previously, original mint packaging is variable depending on size of order
    -individual coins in cellophane with staple (which frequently now is rusted) and
    the original packaging is probably now affecting the coins in not a good way

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