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1909 Lincoln, Nice Coin, But What are the Spots?

What causes these spots and is there a preferred method of removal...or should they be removed? What is the grade impact? Opinions please.

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Aggie

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why are you saying its a nice coin?
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Those are corrosion spots and will prevent the coin from being graded.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...i'd pass. image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    Unfortunately that is copper's version of rust, known as verdigris. It is
    extensive throughout your coin and is corroding the metal.
    My Type Set

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those are corrosion spots and will prevent the coin from being graded. >>



    You should add TB that they would prevent the coin from being graded and slabbed by a TPG.
    The coin, as ALL coins still has a grade.
    We can not base our hobby on criteria set forth by third party services.
    Us collectors look at this coin and net grade it due to it's condition.
    But it still has a grade....everything does.

    Aggie,
    This coin has some serious problems with corrosion.
    Look at that spot on the obverse next to the T in TRUST. The corrosion has eaten into
    the coin and even if removed, will leave damage to the coins surface. This coin is only worth
    a fraction of a similar coin without the corrosion and if you are looking to purchase it, take
    that into consideration. The coin can have the corrosion removed, but will show other damage in
    it's place.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • 78750Aggie78750Aggie Posts: 417 ✭✭
    JRocco - thanks for the detailed reply.

    ambro51 - you are right, it is not (apparently) a nice coin, I should have stated "nice details", it is for me at least. Otherwise, thanks for imparting your astonishing words of wisdom.

    From everyone else I was able to learn that the coin is NOT a nice coin and the corrosion spots ruin or greatly devalue the coin...and although there is a detail grade assignable, the carbon spots render the overall grade useless or un-assignable.
    Aggie
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ..no charge for the "astonishing words of wisdom"

    just keep them in mind when you look at an SVDB for forty times the cost (or whatever)...and remember the "words of widsom", and your valuable learning experience on a much less expensive coin.
  • 78750Aggie78750Aggie Posts: 417 ✭✭
    just keep them in mind when you look at an SVDB for forty times the cost...and remember the "words of widsom", and your valuable learning experience on a much less expensive coin.

    These are indubitably words of wisdom and certainly makes you worthy of being moved into the #3 hole in the batting order! However, it highly unlikely I’ll ever purchase a 1909-S VDB, but I now know about carbon spotting and able to advise friends who, might be likely, to purchase more valuable copper coins.
    Aggie
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that coin is in your collection. I would move it out so no damage will happen to the rest of you copper coins. Looks like it was a very nice coin at one time.image


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