Looking for a CROSSOVER to PCGS. What do you think it'll grade at?
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Some trickster sold this to me and it appears after some research that a half dime is NOT the same as a nickel.
What do you think the grade would be in a PCGS crossover from NGC? I haven't even a clue of a clue.
I was sooo happy in the good old days of bullion when all I had to worry about was MS/PR70 and what wasn't.
Apparantly lately the lines have become blurred. 
NOW, THIS is a coin. Honest to goodness Injun head penny. Most likely NT wouldn't you agree. Not.
What do you think the grade would be in a PCGS crossover from NGC? I haven't even a clue of a clue.
I was sooo happy in the good old days of bullion when all I had to worry about was MS/PR70 and what wasn't.
Apparantly lately the lines have become blurred. NOW, THIS is a coin. Honest to goodness Injun head penny.
Most likely NT wouldn't you agree. Not. 0
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A half dime wouldn't shine the shoes of a '49er. Their base coin was likely a Mexican 2-Real.
Try to get a real close, clear shot, OK!?
Looks nice to me.
P.S. edit to say, I can't see wear here.
If it's not MS, it HAS to be really close!
Any HINT that this is an AT?????????????????????
So, on a different subject (hopefully), XF is better than VF right?
<< <i>It looked a lot better in the original images, to me. But it still might be a gem. It's just that luster and color don't look as good, now, so I'm not nearly as optimistic about its condition as I was previously. >>
I know you are kidding me because you couldn't begin to make out the bands on the shield and now you can see them perfectly. If fact, the shield is perfect with NARY a hint of wear.
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<< <i>It looked a lot better in the original images, to me. But it still might be a gem. It's just that luster and color don't look as good, now, so I'm not nearly as optimistic about its condition as I was previously. >>
I know you are kidding me because you couldn't begin to make out the bands on the shield and now you can see them perfectly. If fact, the shield is perfect with NARY a hint of wear. >>
No, I'm not kidding you. The original images were blurry, but the luster and color looked better in them.
<< <i>63 would be my guess. >>
Please, don't guess if you are clueless as you will make me feel empowered by your cluelessness.
I can easily rule out MS65 and below just based on my experience with Jefferson's and President MS's, of which I can safely say I have a good deal of experience with.
What I can't decide is whether this is 66 or 67. My limited "old stuff" grading leads me to split the dif and say MS66+.
Obviously this is an NGC graded coin based on their newly distinctive 4 white prongs, but I am skeptical of the grade. Haven seen the NGC modern bullion market overgraded fron day one, I have had many here that have not only defended NGC for their modern grading (silly, silly men) as well as their reputation in the classic market.
While I still call BS on NGC bullion (and maybe everyone in 2010???), I have been convinced that in the classic US coin grading, neither NGC and PCGS can claim absolute victory since NGC statically has the advantage and have shown that they still have that edge.
So, where is this one come to for a PCGS grade?
66
66+
67
67+
68
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<< <i>63 would be my guess. >>
Please, don't guess if you are clueless as you will make me feel empowered by your cluelessness.
I can easily rule out MS65 and below just based on my experience with Jefferson's and President MS's, of which I can safely say I have a good deal of experience with.
What I can't decide is whether this is 66 or 67. My limited "old stuff" grading leads me to split the dif and say MS66+.
Obviously this is an NGC graded coin based on their newly distinctive 4 white prongs, but I am skeptical of the grade. Haven seen the NGC modern bullion market overgraded fron day one, I have had many here that have not only defended NGC for their modern grading (silly, silly men) as well as their reputation in the classic market.
While I still call BS on NGC bullion (and maybe everyone in 2010???), I have been convinced that in the classic US coin grading, neither NGC and PCGS can claim absolute victory since NGC statically has the advantage and have shown that they still have that edge.
So, where is this one come to for a PCGS grade?
66
66+
67
67+
68
Of the grade options you listed, I think the first one is the only one with more than a prayer of a chance.
Like I said before, I think this is easily a PCGS MS66+ or possibly a PCGS MS67. I've looked a several PCGS MS65/66 half dimes for sale over the past week and they don't compare. I don't think your grading is close and maybe you have some emotional struggles to overcome. I don't know, but I had higher expectations of your grading abilities.
<< <i>I appreciate your seniority in the market so I would like to ask what exactly drives your grade?
Like I said before, I think this is easily a PCGS MS66+ or possibly a PCGS MS67. I've looked a several PCGS MS65/66 half dimes for sale over the past week and they don't compare. I don't think your grading is close and maybe you have some emotional struggles to overcome. I don't know, but I had higher expectations of your grading abilities.
I think I'll take a break from this thread and let you get feedback from others, who might not have emotional struggles to overcome and who have better image grading abilities. Perhaps they will find the coin to be more lustrous than I do and the somewhat splotchy appearance more to their liking. And if they agree with your assessment they will, no doubt, be correct.
<< <i>I think this is easily a PCGS MS66+ or possibly a PCGS MS67. >>
Fortunately, there is a way to find out what PCGS will grade it.
<< <i>Wrong direction and a lot of negative waves.
The board always grades conservative! That way, if it grades higher, we can whine about "GRADE INFLATION" to save face.
or DNC
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Impossible to say by the photos posted. My guess is 65, but send it in and let us know...
65 max in my book. 64 min. Looking for a crossover and it is in a 64 or higher holder? Cross in the holder, don't risk cracking out. That last thought is the only one I am absolutely convinced of.
<< <i>Since we are rating Cartoons... I'd go G on the IHC, PG-13 on the Seated H10C.
You are mistaken as it's totally R.