OK, has this coin been dipped in its past? Big pics added!
Realone
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Is this coin original? Lets be critical, just tell it like it is, ie I am asking for it!
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<< <i>In answer to your 2 questions: Yes and no. Now you figure out which order I answered them in
As I held a NGC 1799 MS64 $1 a few years ago that was so majorly snow white that there was less life left on it's surfaces then on Mars.
Your coin is nothing like that and although most probably dipped in the past is still a respectable example IMHO.
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<< <i>In answer to your 2 questions: Yes and no. Now you figure out which order I answered them in
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
<< <i>Alan, all kidding aside, I think you already know the most likely correct answers to your questions.
Realone may just be deeply carving some additional hand holding
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<< <i>Alan, all kidding aside, I think you already know the most likely correct answers to your questions.
Realone may just be deeply carving some additional hand holding
That might be extremely painful, especially compared to craving additional hand holding.
<< <i>Realone may just be deeply carving some additional hand holding
That might be extremely painful, especially compared to craving additional hand holding.
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Don't get me wrong...I don't think your coin is a terrible dog or anything. But even wealthy collectors such as Eliasberg could only buy coins that were available to them at the time. This sometimes meant they had to compromise just like us average collectors.
<< <i>Alan, all kidding aside, I think you already know the most likely correct answers to your questions.
poorly.
-Paul
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<< <i>I think its the general consensus that we need larger pics to make an accurate analysis. >>
I got larger pics, if you want them I will provide them at no charge, just let me know if you want the microscopic shots that show the flow lines the size of the grand canyon
Yes we want pics that show John Reich's initials carved in the bottom of those flow lines!
R.I.P. Bear
if I say so myself the bustie looks incredible that way, really makes the coin come alive dipped or not!
you have ragged on and on about your strong feelings against dipping no matter what the circumstance and how it robs us of treasures, strips original coins of their surface skin, etc. etc. etc.-----------i am now left to wonder if that was all just disingenuous babble.
<< <i>Realone quote from another page one thread-----I agree you know that 1818 25c as cool as the clashes are has been dipped for absolute certainty and the ensuing boredom of owning such an example would be overwhelming in less than an hour. What a darn shame such a bust coin was messed with, just showns the lack of intelligence of the greedy imho.
if I say so myself the bustie looks incredible that way, really makes the coin come alive dipped or not!
you have ragged on and on about your strong feelings against dipping no matter what the circumstance and how it robs us of treasures, strips original coins of their surface skin, etc. etc. etc.-----------i am now left to wonder if that was all just disingenuous babble. >>
I do not think that personally being against dipping coins and owning coins that have been dipped are mutually exclusive positions, any more than favoring business strike coins and having some proof coins in the collection, favoring classics and having some moderns, favoring gold and having some silver, etc.
Robert, i agree. it is the strong opinions reapeatedly expressed which is my point of contention. i would expect that someone as opposed to dipping/conservation/un-original coins would shy away from the same thing and patiently wait for toned examples. on a similar thought, i doubt we'll catch ricko lauding the merits of "tarnish" anytime soon, but you never know.
now that i think about it, ricko vs. Realone in some sort of a forum-wrestling match would be a real treat!!!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately. Have you never seen one of these before
I sure have but not usually on a graded coin.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately. Have you never seen one of these before
I sure have but not usually on a graded coin. >>
Then you don't unfortunately collect bust coinage. >>
What's that supposed to mean?
Scratches on Bust coins are OK?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>As long as the scratche(s) aren't deep and new or in an distinct location well then they must be accepted because I have seen a ton of them. >>
Seems a little odd to bend the rules simply because its capped bust coinage?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>The only thing wrong with this coin is.......................................it's in the WRONG holder! >>
"It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately."
Within the series I collect this hairline scratch would put the coin in a genuine holder in a second. The scratch appears to be much more than hairline to me. I really wonder what PCGS would do with this coin if it was submitted.
Hopefully you did not pay top dollar for the coin. Down the road you will find out why.
Ken
<< <i>It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately. Have you never seen one of these before
With that giant image, it looks like the marianas trench to me. I would pass on it...
<< <i>First off I think the coin is decent looking and has been dipped or lightly cleaned in some way. The following bugs me though.
"It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately."
Within the series I collect this hairline scratch would put the coin in a genuine holder in a second. The scratch appears to be much more than hairline to me. I really wonder what PCGS would do with this coin if it was submitted.
Hopefully you did not pay top dollar for the coin. Down the road you will find out why.
Ken >>
Fairlaneman - I agree with you completely. A staple scratch in my opinion.
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<< <i>As long as the scratche(s) aren't deep and new or in an distinct location well then they must be accepted because I have seen a ton of them. >>
Seems a little odd to bend the rules simply because its capped bust coinage? >>
It was just lightly grazed by the blade of a guillotine!
Seriously it's an NGC thing as I'm seeing a lot of staple scratched Hard Times Tokens even in MS66 holders lately.
When I say alot I've rejected about 20 so far that look great at a distance... and then upon close up inspection WTF is that!
Even after being skinned and with the scratch it's still nice at some price. (I don't hate it)
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<< <i>It is called a hairline scratch from star 2 to star 10 unfortunately. Have you never seen one of these before
With that giant image, it looks like the marianas trench to me. I would pass on it...
Okay, now here is the same coin at approximately life size, just like the NGC graders would have seen it.
How does the "trench" look now?
"Handling marks" are a fact of life with classic coinage, unless you are able to restrict your purchases exclusively to the handfull of MS68s and 69s that are out there.