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Do you buy blast white 150 year old coins?

SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I was at the SF Mint today for the show. I've been trying to put together a business strike set of 1858 material (no gold). I saw a nice PCGS MS63 1858-O half dollar, but it was blast white. While it had obviously been dipped, the luster was still there and the coin looked nice. Even though it was a nice looking coin, for me a coin from that era should look like it's been around... not blast white... so I passed on it. How about you, will you buy an older coin if it is blast white? Obviously there are plenty of blast white Morgans out there, but I'm talking about other series where a coin will generally have some sort of an "aged" skin.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I buy blast white Morgans all the time. I actually prefer them.
    But they're not 150 years old.

    Oddly enough, though, I tend to be turned off by coins which are that old and are blast white.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Typically, no.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was looking at this PCGS AU58 1818 CBQ at B&M a couple months ago and was debating the $3K ask as I loved the Clashed Dies.

    However passed as the dipped white surfaces on this CBQ would have bored me in a week of ownership.

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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    Morgans are about the only 19th century coins that I can justify existing in blast white.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,561 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How about you, will you buy an older coin if it is blast white? >>


    No.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Blast gold maybe, but not blast white.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I have no problem buying white Bust Series coins. I just do not pay as much for them as nicely toned ones.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree you know that 1818 25c as cool as the clashes are has been dipped for absolute certainty and the ensuing boredom of owning such an example would be overwhelming in less than an hour. What a darn shame such a bust coin was messed with, just showns the lack of intelligence of the greedy imho. >>



    I feel it was dipped to showcase the clash, yet even though still a technical slider the surface is dead and it might as well IMO have been in a G.O. or NCS holder.
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow broadstruck that is a very nice 25c piece there!
    Still has enough luster for me to look twice at it.

    I could care less if a coin was dipped as long as it has most of its original skin left and enough luster to keep me interested.

    So yes, under the right circumstances I WOULD buy a blast white 150y/o + coin.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    << How about you, will you buy an older coin if it is blast white? >>



    sure, Aluminum struck patterns image

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow broadstruck that is a very nice 25c piece there!
    Still has enough luster for me to look twice at it. >>



    ChrisRx you didn't state you'd love it forever... just look at it twice! image
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  • RebelRonRebelRon Posts: 544 ✭✭
    Not likely.I prefer to see a little "patina"on a 150 year old coin!
  • determineddetermined Posts: 771 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was at the SF Mint today for the show. I've been trying to put together a business strike set of 1858 material (no gold). I saw a nice PCGS MS63 1858-O half dollar, but it was blast white. While it had obviously been dipped, the luster was still there and the coin looked nice. Even though it was a nice looking coin, for me a coin from that era should look like it's been around... not blast white... >>



    In short, to me, old coins should look like old coins.

    I might buy a 150 year old blast white coin just as an example of what a new coin of that type looked like 150 years ago. But I would only buy one and it would have to be cheap.
    I collect history in the form of coins.
  • soty27soty27 Posts: 1,956
    NO
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Do you buy blast white 150 year old coins?

    Of course not!



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  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219 ✭
    Try turning down an R-5 or R-6 seated coin that has been dipped.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do I buy blast white 150 year old coins? no

    have I? Yes

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has every 150+ year old blast white silver coin been dipped?

    I would think at least a few escaped the ravages of oxidation for one reason or another.

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  • RedHerringRedHerring Posts: 2,077 ✭



    << <i>Has every 150+ year old blast white silver coin been dipped? >>




    I would say no. But 99.99% of them have been. image
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sometimes. it depends how it looks at the time and im comfortable with it image jmho
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A blast white 150 year old coin looks weird and unnatural so I would say no. If it were cheap enough I may buy it and put it in a kraft paper coin envelope to give it a little toning. Let's face it---most coins that are over 150 years old have been cleaned at one time and have retoned.

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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    As a general rule-- NO

    But I am sure there are some that I would make exception for.
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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Typically no, unless of course it is a scarce or tough variety......such as this 1814 E/A CBH. This one happens to have some nice reverse toning so it is a little easier on the eyes than a completely blast white CBH.

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Typically no, unless of course it is a scarce or tough variety......such as this 1814 E/A CBH. This one happens to have some nice reverse toning so it is a little easier on the eyes than a completely blast white CBH.

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    I don't like (mostly) white CBHs, but this one has a cool LDS look---deformed stars and denomination, some lettering with bifurcated bases, metal flow lines near rim, and the ridge near the rim. Very interesting coin.
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Nope (not anymore anyway). Like drddm's CBH, this one is mostly white, but the rim color makes it attractive to me

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well many GSA Morgans over 130 y.o. are blast white.
    Soooo storage is the key.image
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭
    Sure I will, and I hope to soon... What color do you think almost every 1859-O and 1860-O seated dollar are?
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's my only other white (well, actually light golden in color) CBH - 1823 Ugly 3 PCGS 58.

    Again, only got this one as it's a tough and scarce variety to find.....pop 3/4.

    I'd love to find another in PCGS AU58, however I have a feeling the other 2 in 58 and the 4 in MS are in some pretty tight hands.

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  • BillyGoatsGruffBillyGoatsGruff Posts: 640


    No.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is my closest example and I am not happy about it not being toned:

    Then consider cracking her out and putting the coin in an album for a decade or two... then it will be as "original" as most early coins with secondary toning applied or let happen.

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