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Ever buy the keys first, then lose interest in the rest of the series?

MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
This happened to me a few years ago with Lincoln Cents. Getting back into collecting, I read several articles and books that said to buy the keys first. So I did. Then none of the other coins in the series seemed challenging or interesting.

One of the main reasons I became a type collector.

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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, did the same exact thing when I got back into collecting several years ago, and I, too also did it with Lincoln cents, however I eventually sold them and used them to jump start my CBH collection, which I'm glad I did.

    I guess it really depends on your personality. For me, I prefer completing a set, rather than collecting one of each type. But I must admit, I have toyed around with the idea of getting into type collecting as I find SOOOO many designs very cool. Who knows, perhaps someday image
  • I have often consitered this when folks give that advice. In retrospect, it always makes sense to have the keys early. Their value holds or increases so it seems like a wise move. However, learning about a series by collecting nice examples of commoner issues is often a really fun part of collecting and it make the keys seem that much more exciting to get - if you stay interested. Or if you loose interest, you can bail without too much paid in.

    Because of this, I have more of a type/20 box mindset now. It also slowed my buying dramatically.

    But things always change.
    "spot on my UHR, nevermind, I wiped it off"
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    There are MANY keys in the Lincoln series, if you get into strike and die state :-)
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    That just meant you chose too easy a series image With the seated dollars we got the keys pretty early, but it was 4-5 "common" dates which we could not find. We are still looking for a nice 1859-O, probably the second "easiest" coin to find in the set!

    To answer your question, not yet. But then again, we have a type set for a reason...
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    For a long time, I collected ONLY key dates in all series.....then decided to specalize on the Abes......
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did the overall collecting first.
    Doing some keys now.
    Will always get coins that I like, no matter what. I think that is key.....even if the coin isn't key, if the coin is neat/unique and I like it, I will get it.

    I do, quite well, understand what you are talking about though.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes... I have absolutely no interest in all but 3 Philly struck SLQ's.
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  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    I have no interest in complete series or Mint mark collecting. At the present time I am buying British Sovereign/Brittania coins. My collection is a mix of this and that.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219
    Just so you know - key collectors make it much harder on us set collectors driving up the prices and reducing the availability of keys for our sets.
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,112 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just so you know - key collectors make it much harder on us set collectors driving up the prices and reducing the availability of keys for our sets. >>



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    But seriously, I agree. Tar and feathers seem appropriate. image

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ever buy the keys first, then lose interest in the rest of the series? >>

    I bought the keys first but often found no interest to lose.
    Lance.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,860 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just so you know - key collectors make it much harder on us set collectors driving up the prices and reducing the availability of keys for our sets. >>

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    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. In fact, I took the approach of buying the keys first and this hasn't dampened my desire to complete the series. However, I always have to control myself from straying into another series. There are so many cool type coins that it is hard to stay focused. I will have to say the series I collect is full of keys and therefore every coin represents a real challenge.

  • I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image >>


    Exactly my thoughts, as well.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,860 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image >>


    Exactly my thoughts, as well. >>



    The theory is the keys go up in value faster than the other coins in the series. If you wait to get the keys last, you may not be able to afford them.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tread the middle ground and buy the "nice" dates and mintmarks.....not the top keys, but coins which have an importance to your series.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The series I am most interested in, commems,
    have been going down
    and luckily I have not bought the keys
    yet.

    LCoopie = Les
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also got started in again about six years ago with Lincoln Cents. And I too bought the keys first. I didn't buy high grades, though. Just the ones I could afford. Fortunately, as the quality of the common stuff rose steadily, so did my appetite for high quality keys, and the desire to build an evenly matched set.

    What grades did you buy the keys in? Within a grade of top pop?

    What do you mean un-challenging or un-interesting? Several non-key dates are particularly challenging in any grade over 63BN. Are you really telling me that dates like '12-s, 14-s, 15-s, 23-s, 24-d, 26-s are un-interesting, or did you simply buy all of those too in high grade before you lost interest?
  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    I've decided that there are some series I don't want to collect by date/MM. Lincoln cents for example. There are too many and I am too ADD for that. I decided to collect the key dates in the best grades I could find or afford. I find that to be way more fun. From the other side, those are the coins that will have the most interest anyhow. Everyone wants an MS64RB 1909 S-VDB. Few people want an MS65RD 1994-D cent.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image >>


    Exactly my thoughts, as well. >>



    The theory is the keys go up in value faster than the other coins in the series. If you wait to get the keys last, you may not be able to afford them. >>


    I know that's some people's theory, but I don't think it's a good idea.
    I prefer to get familiar with the series, before plunking down the big bucks on a key. I've started several series, then after collecting a few coins in it, decided to change my "grade range" for the series. I'd rather sell a few cheapies, than a key. While keys tend to go up in value, there are short term fluctuations as well as the spread from dealer mark-up, so you staill might get burnt.
    Also, not all keys are the same. I hate to use the term, but some series have widget keys that you can buy any day of the week, like Lincs, Mercs, IHCs, etc. Then, there are rare keys, as in the Bust and Seated Dime series, which don't come along very often, in any condition.
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image >>


    Exactly my thoughts, as well. >>



    The theory is the keys go up in value faster than the other coins in the series. If you wait to get the keys last, you may not be able to afford them. >>


    I know that's some people's theory, but I don't think it's a good idea.
    I prefer to get familiar with the series, before plunking down the big bucks on a key. I've started several series, then after collecting a few coins in it, decided to change my "grade range" for the series. I'd rather sell a few cheapies, than a key. While keys tend to go up in value, there are short term fluctuations as well as the spread from dealer mark-up, so you staill might get burnt.
    Also, not all keys are the same. I hate to use the term, but some series have widget keys that you can buy any day of the week, like Lincs, Mercs, IHCs, etc. Then, there are rare keys, as in the Bust and Seated Dime series, which don't come along very often, in any condition. >>




    I generally stay away from the keys for the reasons above and the fact that keys are usually easy to find at every show. When i was working on SLQ's you could find 50 keys for every 1920 d out there.
    Mark
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think its dumb to get the keys first. Why not wait until later when you know more about the series before plunging into the keys? image >>



    image You really hit the nail on the head with that statement!!image
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What grades did you buy the keys in? Within a grade of top pop?

    What do you mean un-challenging or un-interesting? Several non-key dates are particularly challenging in any grade over 63BN. Are you really telling me that dates like '12-s, 14-s, 15-s, 23-s, 24-d, 26-s are un-interesting, or did you simply buy all of those too in high grade before you lost interest? >>


    I bought the 09-S VDB, the 14-D, the 31-S and the 55 DDO all in MS64 RB or 65 RB. I bought the 72 DDO in 66 RD. These were coins I dreamed about owning when I was a kid. Once I owned them, none of the other coins in the series really mattered to me.
  • 500Bay500Bay Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭
    When I was younger, I built sets the old fashioned way: keys last.

    As I upgraded and sold off, I realized two things: the common coins all sold at a loss and I really did not enjoy them anyway.
    I now buy only keys, semi-keys and coins that have a 'story'. I have far fewer coins, but enjoy them a whole lot more.
    That is just me, collect what you like.
    Finem Respice
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like to buy the keys as opportunity presents itself and it seems I always run out of money before desire. image
  • I'm mainly interested in upgrading my keys and semi-keys in my tougher date set. It's so tempting to sell off everything except the date set. I'm working on, mostly, early Walkers and some other, earlier halves. Is it shifting interest or actual losing interest? Broadening one's horizons, perhaps?

    I'm sure trying to listen to the old hands who collect gold. I'm way new to it. Adding to, and upgrading, my gold type set is also a priority, at some level. image

    Right now, I'd upgrade an early Walker before I bought that G$3 piece I need.

    prioritize, patience, puh-leeze





  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    This has happened to me, too. I AM glad to own the keys, but I should have been more patient and waiting to get them. Also having trouble pulling the trigger on the last couple coins I need for the series, but maybe that's more about the economy than lack of interest right now.
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  • I agree that financially it is usually better to buy the keys earlier, but this isn't really about financial...but about your personal attempts to create a collection. As such, I think the keys should remain that which needs to be attained last - "save the best for last" - etc. Its much more satisfying for me.
  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Mid life. to me, collecting is about challenges and once you have the tougher coins in a series it is hard for me to have much excitement or enjoyment in
    getting commons that are readily available in virtually any condition. Although I understand that many collectors have an almost OCD affinity for finishing sets, nothing wrong in that, many of us are wired differently......

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