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The trifurcated market...

MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
That's it. I just felt like saying it.
Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    If anyone is entitled to say it, Andy, it is you!!
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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    It does have a nice sound to it, tri-fur-cat-ed, trifurcated, yes , I like it.image
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Defined as, the dreck that doesn't sell, the 'solid collector coins' like VF Barber halves and AU early walkers that are in demand, and the high powered five figure+ items bedecked with stickers and whatnot that sell to those who can afford them? My WAG at it, anyway.
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin market was trifurcated more than a decade ago; it is polyfurcated today.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i think i'll puke if i hear dreck one more time!!image
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking "Plus, CAC, Nonplussed", in that order.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    how's about good-better-best??
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    It's just so much easier to understand than a septafurcated coin market.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    gimmick, gimmicker, gimmickest. image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think dizzy has the right idea......
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many collectors will feel that they've been trifurcated by this new grading system?image

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Andy:

    With NGC one can feel quadrificated or quintrificated??

    +
    *
    CAC
    nonplussed
    nonstarred
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trifurcated is obsolete. The market is at least Quadfurcated.

    1. Expensive - secure plus - big investor/big collector coins

    2. High end - pq in all other coins not fitting the price range of #1.

    3. Solidly grade coins that ok for the grade

    4. Dreck, schlock, low end coins that most everyone is avoiding

    Coins 1 & 2 are making most of the noise these days. #3 coins are getting moderate to reduced business as buyers figure out the CAC, +, pq game as it currently stands. #4 coins are dead for now and probably the foreseeable future. Funny that when TPG grading first came out most coins were pretty well defined by their single assigned grades. Today, a coin is almost assumed to be undesireable unless associated with an additional monicker.

    roadrunner
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,172 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ROADRUNNER:

    Where do the wheaties fall in?
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    what are the 3 splits?
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Hmmm
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    grumpy

    grumpier

    grumpiest

    Sign me up in the last catagoryimage

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how's about good-better-best?? >>



    Awesome idea.

    I just went to the home improvement store to pick up a paintbrush to do some trim work and they
    had 3 different grades listed right on their packaging.
    Good
    Better
    Best

    Better was about 25% more than Good and Best was almost double the price of Better.
    Made perfect sense.

    I picked up the Better grade because my painting skills are far from the best but much better than
    just plain old good.....at least I think so....image
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,410 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin market was trifurcated more than a decade ago; it is polyfurcated today. >>



    Nah, jiss subfurcated like firststrikefurcated, cacfurcated, secureplusfurcated, dreckfurcated, schlockfurcated.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    In actuality, the market will now be separated into an increased number
    of specialized segments. This is neither good nor bad, it just is. Each
    segment will have a life of its own and collectors can choose to enter into
    any segment they feel comfortable with.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Trifurcated is obsolete. The market is at least Quadfurcated.

    1. Expensive - secure plus - big investor/big collector coins

    2. High end - pq in all other coins not fitting the price range of #1.

    3. Solidly grade coins that ok for the grade

    4. Dreck, schlock, low end coins that most everyone is avoiding

    Coins 1 & 2 are making most of the noise these days. #3 coins are getting moderate to reduced business as buyers figure out the CAC, +, pq game as it currently stands. #4 coins are dead for now and probably the foreseeable future. Funny that when TPG grading first came out most coins were pretty well defined by their single assigned grades. Today, a coin is almost assumed to be undesireable unless associated with an additional monicker.

    roadrunner >>


    There are far more possible combinations and outcomes. It's a multifurcated market. image
  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    image
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I would not call a nice Full rim G/VG Barber coin the dreaded "D" word. They can be
    very pleasant to collect and I have a number of them just for the heck of it. If it
    is fun, inexpensive and you get enjoyment from it, then any coins one cares to
    collect is just fine. Now, if one is going to spend big money such as 500, 1000 or more,
    you will probably want to be sure that the coin is at least solid for what every grade that
    money will buy you.Now, If you start spending 10,000, 100,000 or more, then you will
    probably want the very best that is available for the money.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Wow, first we have refulgent, now trifurcated; what I see is collectors are becoming so sesquipedalian that dealers will need to keep a dictionary handy to comprehend the coin market.image
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>grumpy

    grumpier

    grumpiest >>



    I like these segments image
    Ed
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Wi never sayd wi waz stupyd.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage


  • It gives me a splitting head ache.............





  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Didn't " Newspeak " in the book 1984 have phrases like +good, ++good etc etc, to eliminate the language of the proles?
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