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Norweb Collection/ANS query

Does anyone know if the Norweb coins that passed to the American Numismatic Society were recorded and/or illustrated in any published form? I am particularly interested in the Charles 1st part of the collection which was virtually non-existent in the 4 sales that Spink had in the 1980's.

Thanks.

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    MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone know if the Norweb coins that passed to the American Numismatic Society were recorded and/or illustrated in any published form? I am particularly interested in the Charles 1st part of the collection which was virtually non-existent in the 4 sales that Spink had in the 1980's.

    Thanks. >>




    Two potential sources for your query are MrEureka on this forum (send him a PM), and the other who should know for sure is Charles Davis, aka, NumisLit on eBay.


    If it exists in written form Charlie should be able to source the edition(s).


    The thought just occurred that my Armand Champa auction catalogues may contain a lead. I'll check when I return home.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Norweb British tokens have been published. I don't know about the coins.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, I found more info here. I don't see the volume we were hoping for, so it probably doesn't exist. Still, this is worth a look!
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    RobPRobP Posts: 483 ✭✭
    Thanks.

    I know about the sylloges and that they don't cover what I'm looking for, that's why I thought there might just have been a US publication which had slipped under my radar.

    As Norweb had first pick of stock for over a decade at Spink and Baldwin not to mention bulk purchases at major sales, a lot of things went her way never to resurface. I'm trying to track down these pieces to save me waiting and looking in vain. The list of pieces I would choose to buy if they became available is often decimated by museum inventories. So many coins have been saved FROM the nation so to speak. If a museum doesn't publish a list of its inventory, nobody knows of their whereabouts.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rob - Have you tried contacting the ANS? Have you considered visiting them to look at the coins?
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    RobPRobP Posts: 483 ✭✭


    << <i>Rob - Have you tried contacting the ANS? Have you considered visiting them to look at the coins? >>



    I've sent them an email, just waiting for a reply. Visiting is a non-starter because it is on the other side of the pond and still wouldn't give me a list of the coins and their provenances. The info will either be available or not, but doesn't require my presence. Some of the coins are already illustrated in sales catalogues and so it is then a question of tidying the lists. Illustrated ones are useful if decades have passed since a coin was last pictured because it will almost certainly have changed hands in the interim. If a provenance isn't listed in a later sale and the coin isn't illustrated either, then the trail must go cold and the provenance is prematurely curtailed.
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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One example of Norweb coins that went to the market and not in the catalogue sales is the Wood/Paget set of six patterns for the upcoming 1927 silver coinage change. That went back up through Spink many years (perhaps 25?) ago. I believe the recently sold 2.1 mill USD 1937 Edward VIII set was theirs (Norweb's) but did not make it into the auction sales.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭
    The ANS has their holdings cataloged. A quick search shows numerous ex-Norweb pieces within.

    A search also found this catalog in book form: English Gold Coins - Ancient To Modern Times, On Loan To The Cleveland Museum Of Art From The Norweb Collection .
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
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    RobPRobP Posts: 483 ✭✭


    << <i>The ANS has their holdings cataloged. A quick search shows numerous ex-Norweb pieces within.

    A search also found this catalog in book form: English Gold Coins - Ancient To Modern Times, On Loan To The Cleveland Museum Of Art From The Norweb Collection . >>



    Thanks for the lead. I had already found the ANS search facility but unfortunately there are precious few images or provenances for individual coins other than the immediate source. That's the reason for the original question, but it may be that the info simply isn't available.
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