Block this buyer

CDsNuts · April 1, 2010 12:13PM

genessis2008

His game is that he lives in Canada and will message sellers that didn't use d/c that he never received the cards hoping for a refund. I was actually about to give him the refund until another seller warned me about the scam. I reported him to ebay but they obviously won't do anything about it.

Xtrainningscards · April 1, 2010 12:22PM

As far as I know you can only file 3 charges a year of nonreceipt, he probably has already done that, and hope some give in without that formality.

storm888 · April 1, 2010 12:29PM

FB Rcd By:

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=genessis2008&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home

FB Left By:

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=genessis2008&Dirn=Left+by

genessis2008 = SCAMARAMA

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Shipping out of the USA is a carp-shoot, with PayPal in the mix.

swartz1 · April 1, 2010 12:30PM

this is exactly the reason why I dont understand why sellers leave feedback right away...

if someone can explain it to me, I'll listen...

hhmag70 · April 1, 2010 12:31PM

If you ship to Canada, will the customs paperwork prove that it was shipped to cover a dispute? or is the DC needed?

Justfishinjj · April 1, 2010 12:31PM

Every time you ship for eBay auctions you have to get the delivery conformation. You must have online tracking. I got burnt with the same scam. I got insurance on the package which has a tracking #, but you can't track it online. Stay in accordance with paypals shipping rules, then you are covered.

Yelbom · April 1, 2010 12:31PM

That is why I do not ship outside the US. Not worth it.....He's already blocked that way!

Justfishinjj · April 1, 2010 12:34PM

By the way...the DC only cost like $.85

WalterSobchak · April 1, 2010 12:37PM

<< Every time you ship for eBay auctions you have to get the delivery conformation. You must have online tracking. I got burnt with the same scam. I got insurance on the package which has a tracking #, but you can't track it online. Stay in accordance with paypals shipping rules, then you are covered. >>

The degree to which I am looking forward to Lee's response to this is a sad commentary on my life.

storm888 · April 1, 2010 12:41PM

<< this is exactly the reason why I dont understand why sellers leave feedback right away...

if someone can explain it to me, I'll listen... >>

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Game Theory

"...A player should generally make any move that
does not increase his risk in the game....."

There is ZERO risk in leaving FB upon payment, and both the
honest and anal buyers like it.

If a bad "buyer" tries the SCAM after the seller has left
FB, the seller is NOT harmed in any way. The seller can
respond to the fraudulent FB detailing the dispute, if he
chooses his words carefully.

...............................

"Prompt Payment*****Five-Star Buyer*****"

says nothing but that the guy paid AND it will often encourage
the good buyers to boost the seller's DSRs.

..............

Justfishinjj · April 1, 2010 12:44PM

<< 

<< Every time you ship for eBay auctions you have to get the delivery conformation. You must have online tracking. I got burnt with the same scam. I got insurance on the package which has a tracking #, but you can't track it online. Stay in accordance with paypals shipping rules, then you are covered. >>

The degree to which I am looking forward to Lee's response to this is a sad commentary on my life. >>

Who is Lee?

storm888 · April 1, 2010 12:49PM

"...<< Every time you ship for eBay auctions you have to get the delivery conformation. You must have online tracking. I got burnt with the same scam. I got insurance on the package which has a tracking #, but you can't track it online. Stay in accordance with paypals shipping rules, then you are covered. >>"

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The only practical one that currently flies with EBAY/PP is USPS EMI.

It's about $30.00.

.....................................

Both FDX and UPS claim to have PP-compliant services, but they
cost a fortune and are not reliable; an extra "courier fee" is often
attached on the buyer's end, which guarantees NEG FB.

Xtrainningscards · April 1, 2010 12:49PM

DC in US is only 85 cents, DC for international require shipping that is like $15+.

CDsNuts · April 1, 2010 1:26PM

From what I was told by the other guys he's scammed, the guy actually never follows through with the paypal claim and is just hoping for a refund from the seller without ebay/paypal stepping in. It's only $25 either way, so it's not going to destroy my life even if he does file a claim.

Walter, sadly I didn't fly off the handle like I should've. I just told him that I know his game and to go pound sand. I think I need to wait until the afternoon when my 3 Red Bulls start kicking in to send messages to knobgobblers like this guy. My heart just wasn't in it this morning.

MULLINS5 · April 1, 2010 1:31PM

<< If you ship to Canada, will the customs paperwork prove that it was shipped to cover a dispute? or is the DC needed? >>

DC is still needed.

About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs off ebay for approximately $55; I know delivery can be slow, so I waited, then filed right before deadline, continued to wait, filed at the deadline for a claim. Seller gave me a prompt refund. He has great feedback and I really honestly believe he was not scamming me. If they show up, I'll send the money back to him.

This is the only bad case I've had with International shipping.

Patrick

lsutigers1973 · April 1, 2010 1:46PM

<< About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs >>

Were they real, fake or reprint stickers?

RonBurgundy · April 1, 2010 1:48PM

Thanks Lee.

Here's another Canadian con artist: magnolia-lane-09. Claimed he - Paul Fisher is his name, by the way, from Toronto - never received my item. Filed a paypal claim fast, without ever contacting me. I've emailed him several times without a response. Total con man.

He'll be getting a phone call soon though from my Canadian counsel. I may not get my money back from the paypal gestapo but I'm going to send a message to him. Texas.

gumbyfan · April 1, 2010 1:50PM

<< 

<< About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs >>

Were they real, fake or reprint stickers? >>

More real than a Wilt auto, I'm guessing.

MULLINS5 · April 1, 2010 2:27PM

<< 

<< About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs >>

Were they real, fake or reprint stickers? >>

Barfvader · April 1, 2010 9:14PM

<< 

<< 

<< About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs >>

Were they real, fake or reprint stickers? >>

>>

A PSA error in labeling it as such. TPG's make them all the time as none of them are perfect. Doesn't prove it's an official reprint because if it did then your auctions/listings wouldn't keep getting pulled now would they?

Edited: Spelling

bobbyw8469 · April 1, 2010 9:16PM

<< By the way...the DC only cost like $.85 >>

It's .95 via Click N Ship but that is only domestic. International tracking/Signature Confirmation is alot more.....

flash49 · April 1, 2010 10:34PM

try a track on the customs tag(lcxxxxxxxxus).my po claims it is traceable by them but not to public on line.at least ask if this is true.

storm888 · April 2, 2010 1:20AM

<< try a track on the customs tag(lcxxxxxxxxus).my po claims it is traceable by them but not to public on line.at least ask if this is true. >>

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Customs status is proof of nothing, as far as PayPal is concerned.

USPS Express Mail International is the bulletproof way to send items
internationally, when PayPal is in the mix. About $30.00.

MULLINS5 · April 2, 2010 3:23AM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< About 6-8 weeks ago I purchased some sticker packs >>

Were they real, fake or reprint stickers? >>

>>

A PSA error in labeling it as such. TPG's make them all the time as none of them are perfect. Doesn't prove it's an official reprint because if it did then your auctions/listings wouldn't keep getting pulled now would they?

Edited: Spelling >>

So it's OK for a professional grading company to screw up on the terminology but not a novice collector?

I spoke with customer service on eBay yesterday and the woman, as well as her supervisor, said eBay's policy for counterfeit or reprint cards is to not allow them even if official reprint from company I asked about replica coins, they said "OK to list but trading cards no" Then I ask why my auctions and only mine, their answers were that it is the members who police the site (first time they ever admitted this to me). The only logical explaination I have for that is that someone in particular is reporting the listing, probably someone who puts the item number on these forums each time they are listed?

Barfvader · April 2, 2010 4:18AM

<< Then I ask why my auctions and only mine, their answers were that it is the members who police the site (first time they ever admitted this to me). The only logical explaination I have for that is that someone in particular is reporting the listing, probably someone who puts the item number on these forums each time they are listed? >>

Now who would it be on this forum doing that? Sounds like paranoia is sitting in.

And by the way it isn't only yours being pulled. I know of a site that loves to report these things and yesterday out of eight auctions reported, four were removed.

Barfvader · April 2, 2010 4:26AM

And BTW it's common knowledge that members police the site although eBay staff does as well. Plus once you have had an auction/listing removed for such things it makes it easier for them (like a red flag) to remove them when a person re-lists the same item even if the wording is changed. People have also had their accounts suspended in the past for re-listing items over and over when they know they are are not allowed because when an item is pulled you do get a reason for it being removed.

MULLINS5 · April 2, 2010 7:37AM

Okay, that makes sense Jeff, thanks.

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