Trimmed or not? Henderson. Ended at $90

EagleEyeKid · March 25, 2010 1:00AM

This auction caught my eye, and the seller has other RC that just seem too good and centered....all raw.
This Henderson looks great centered, but I feel the borders are a bit short gauging T/B; possibly on the sides as well.
He uses one short statement for each auction that doesn't even pertain to the card. 100% fb. Thoughts?

Garabaldi · March 25, 2010 1:11AM

Top left hand corner looks a little soft.

UlyssesExtravaganza · March 25, 2010 2:04AM

At the right price, it might be worth taking a shot on. I feel like it has enough border but maybe questionably well-centered for a card that has huge centering problems. There were a lot of uncut sheets with Henderson on them floating around a while back so that could have something to do with the flawless centering.

72skywalker · March 25, 2010 2:41AM

Before I purchase any card I always ask the seller if it has ever been trimmed. If they come back and say "no" I will trust them (I am aware they could be lying to me but I like to give them the benefit of the doubt) If they say they are not sure or something vague like it doesn't look to be trimmed, I stay away.

Also, will he take the card back if you win it and after you measure it it is trimmed?

Garabaldi · March 25, 2010 2:42AM

Trimmed and miscut makes it very hard to buy anything on the internet.

buymovieposters · March 25, 2010 6:43AM

i never buy raw on the internet unless the cards are sealed in a pack or box

DeutscherGeist · March 25, 2010 6:47AM

This uncertainty is what drives raw card prices far below the PSA encapsulated ones.

EagleEyeKid · March 25, 2010 11:18AM

Wow! Sold for $90.
Someone is expected at least a 9 grade.

Rickey

hammered · March 25, 2010 1:17PM

He had a Molitor and Murray RC, each also sold for $90. He called them all 'mint'. Those cards were nice, but we all know scans can hide flaws. Too much $ for a single raw card. Checking his FB, he's sold many key raw cards lately, most of which he called 'mint'. He must have been extremely particular as a collector.

DeutscherGeist · March 25, 2010 5:27PM

Buying a Murray, Henderson or Molitor rookie raw is very risky. Yes, the scan on the Henderson really did look MINT. It sold for $90. It could grade a PSA 9, which is worth $150 easily.

Although he may have been a particular collector in the past when he gathered all his mint cards, one cannot really be certain what the story is. Too many scams have happened to risk buying valuable cards raw.

I wonder if the winning bidder even want the card slabbed. I know some collector's just prefer a raw card. I wouldn't sell a rookie card raw on ebay because as a seller, one can make a lot of money getting those cards graded. This is especially true of cards worth over $50.

Garabaldi · March 25, 2010 11:34PM

Someone thought it was worth the gamble.

toc1000 · March 26, 2010 12:14AM

The top looks obviously trimmed. Which makes sense with a bad upper-left corner.

Machines cut a perfect straight line; whereas trims, which usually involve a hand-held razor blade, cut unsteady.

Even without trimming it'd have difficulty making PSA 8 = worth ~$30.

CDsNuts · March 26, 2010 1:29AM

This thread contains one of the single funniest things I've read on these boards. I'll let you decide what it is.

toc1000 · March 26, 2010 3:27AM

Is that a reference to my sloppily written comment? Allow me to clarify:

The top edge looks EOT because of a visually perceptible unevenness (the trimmer apparently meant to slice away a dented upper-left corner... and although he got most of it, a detectable fuzziness remains.)

But if I'm wrong and the card is an intact card, then it'd probably grade a PSA 7 (again, due to the weak corner.)

gtgrad99 · March 26, 2010 3:35AM

<< <i>This thread contains one of the single funniest things I've read on these boards. I'll let you decide what it is. >>

LMFAO!!!

nam812 · March 26, 2010 3:49AM

<< <i>This thread contains one of the single funniest things I've read on these boards. I'll let you decide what it is. >>

Before I order a meal in a restaurant i always ask the waiter if the food will make me sick. If they come back and say "no" I will trust them.

DeutscherGeist · March 26, 2010 4:02AM

CDsNuts,

Please fill us in.....

gtgrad99 · March 26, 2010 4:56AM

<< <i>CDsNuts,

Please fill us in..... >>

Something about uneven trim from a manual razor...

fkw · March 27, 2010 12:46PM

Trim police

Why trim a card that is already often found sharp?

Doubt it is trimmed... There are hundreds of 1980 Topps cases out there in closets all over the nation. Its an extremely common card and most were stored in platic pages right after they were ripped.

Trim= cards that have corner wear or edge nicks.
1980...not likely to have been stored in shoeboxes wrapped in rubberbands.

TomGshotput · March 27, 2010 1:04PM

<< <i>Why trim a card that is already often found sharp? >>

Are all those cards put directly into pages or still in cases selling for $90?

toc1000 · March 27, 2010 6:02PM

The unevenness is most apparent in the scan of the blue back, less so from the front.

Trimmed or not? Henderson. Ended at $90

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