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Now that The Big One™ has been disclosed, we should all agree on standard definitional terms

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
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Now that The Big One™ has been disclosed, we should all agree on standard definitional terms when discussing coins on these boards. I propose the following terms. I welcome people’s feedback.

(1) Raw slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

(2) Sticker-slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which has a CAC sticker.

(3) Secure Plus-slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

(4) Secure Plus-slabbed Plus’ed slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, but which does not have a CAC sticker.

(5) Secure Plus slabbed Plus’ed Sticker-slabbed: the Holy Grail of numismatists. A coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, and which has a CAC sticker.

(6) Raw coin: virtually worthless and useless with respect to marketability.
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  • dirtybirddirtybird Posts: 223 ✭✭
    Life used to be so simple image
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This thread has given me a headache.

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For some reason this post reminded me of "NewSpeak"

    so I'll just say that a coin is "doubleplusgood" or "doubleplusungood."

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now that The Big One™ has been disclosed, we should all agree on standard definitional terms when discussing coins on these boards. I propose the following terms. I welcome people’s feedback.

    (1) Raw slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (2) Sticker-slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which has a CAC sticker.

    (3) Secure Plus-slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (4) Secure Plus-slabbed Plus’ed slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, but which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (5) Secure Plus slabbed Plus’ed Sticker-slabbed: the Holy Grail of numismatists. A coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, and which has a CAC sticker.

    (6) Raw coin: virtually worthless and useless with respect to marketability. >>




    Take two aspirin and go lie down........
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    "For some reason this post reminded me of "NewSpeak" - Illini420

    so I'll just say that a coin is "doubleplusgood" or "doubleplusungood."

    Eric would be proud! image noooo, not me, Eric A. Blair. A great bok and a wonderful use of the quote.

    Best,
    Eric
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We should agree on the standard definitional terms, but that's difficult considering we haven't been able to agree on a standard.

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Longacre --

    Please send me all of your (6) coins (as referenced above) and I promise to pre-pay the money for postage. That way you won't have to worry about them any more.

    Cheers,

    Greg

    PS...Just make your personal secretary do it. I'm sure it will only take a few days to clear the vault!! image
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  • StubbyMcNumbthumbsStubbyMcNumbthumbs Posts: 1,259 ✭
    I would change number one to "Basic Slabbed", due to my magnetic aversion to oxymorons.

    I would also add another: "Genuine Slabbed", with it's value above that of a "Raw Coin" being directly proportional to it's rarity.

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The beauty of it is that within a one month period, one can envision the same coin easily in five of the six configurations. It's a good start.

    You have, unfortunately, failed to account for PCGS Genuine, OGH, Doiley, Rattler, and the latter three, with or without a sticker. You have also failed to account for a gold sticker. Finally, while you and I would not be caught dead with one, there are some coins in other brand slabs (though other than the possible exception of NGC, these are insignificant).
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    After we settle on terms, please prepare a conversion chart for the less initiated (like me). For example, the PCGS "plus" takes both eye appeal and technical grade into account; the NGC "star," however, reflects just eye appeal, not technical grade. But NGC will soon start a "plus" program, too, so I suppose an NGC "star-plus" coin is equivalent to a PCGS "plus" coin. Except, of course, we know that PCGS tends to grade a bit stricter than NGC in some series at some grade levels. So, maybe an NGC "star-plus" 65 is not as nice as a PCGS "plus" 65, but an NGC "star-plus-CACgreen" 65 is as nice (except when PCGS refuses to cross it).

    So, anyway, I'm looking forward to the conversion chart, Longacre. TIA. image
  • QuarterCollectorQuarterCollector Posts: 1,384 ✭


    << <i>Now that The Big One™ has been disclosed, we should all agree on standard definitional terms when discussing coins on these boards. I propose the following terms. I welcome people’s feedback.

    (1) Raw slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (2) Sticker-slabbed: a coin that is in an old fashioned PCGS holder, and which has a CAC sticker.

    (3) Secure Plus-slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (4) Secure Plus-slabbed Plus’ed slabbed: a coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, but which does not have a CAC sticker.

    (5) Secure Plus slabbed Plus’ed Sticker-slabbed: the Holy Grail of numismatists. A coin that is in a new PCGS Secure Plus holder, and which as a PCGS Plus, and which has a CAC sticker.

    (6) Raw coin: virtually worthless and useless with respect to marketability. >>



    Longacre,

    You forgot to differentiate between CAC Green and CAC Gold stickers image

    Tom
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that I prefer Secure Plus-No Plus for coins in the new holder but not PQ and Secure Plus plus Plus for those that are PQ.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While you are at it, explain the Infield Fly Rule and the rules of the game of Fizzbin!

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"For some reason this post reminded me of "NewSpeak" - Illini420

    so I'll just say that a coin is "doubleplusgood" or "doubleplusungood."

    Eric would be proud! image noooo, not me, Eric A. Blair. A great bok and a wonderful use of the quote.
    >>



    Precisely what I was thinking.

    HRH must be O'Brien image
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we could call them all just "coins"
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While you are at it, explain the Infield Fly Rule and the rules of the game of Fizzbin!

    image >>



    Here they are:

    http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/bester/101/fizzbin.html
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