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Would a less obvious designation benefit the coin hobby more or less than a + sign?

leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
Give your opinion.


Leo

The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure I understand the question.
    Lance.
  • I realize I haven't actually answered the question, but this is what first came to mind:

    I think the hobby in general would benefit more from a comprehensive web site which would explain how to properly grade each series ( along the lines of the ANA Grading guide) with good photos and examples of each grade.

    I think education is much more beneficial than more and more reliance on someone else to do it for you.


    I think the whole country needs to get back to this philosophy - education and independence/self-reliance vs. total dependence on some other (govt) organization.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends if you agree that most collectors are window shoppers.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where's the image option?
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I think Leo is asking if people will confuse the Secure Plus with the "+" sign, and not realize the little "+" means top for the grade-------BigE


    Edited to add I still dont know how to answer the poll because of the unusual wording
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't think of any designation less obvious than a plus.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, a suffix like T for superior technical quality, or E for great eye appeal or S for full strike... applied via a blue bean say....would have distinguished the exceptional characteristics of a coin without changing the whole grading system and calling back 20 million coins for regrade.

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm talking about 2 sets of population reports, two grading standards; market grading and technical grading, a designation that's not readily distinguishable to the common, average, Whitman folder hole filler where anything will do, birth year, window shopper collectors who would not care if the star spangle banner was playing after the grade on the slab. Make the designation privilege information to the serious collectors who are or would be submitting their coins. Give us consistency or give us death! image


    Ok....I got carried away but that's how I and many here have been feeling for several years. If someone outside of the ring of valuable and coveted coins gets curious to why one coin of same grade sold for more than another......let him learn the answer to that question based on the qualities a coin can take on in the eyes of a dedicated collector.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Too soon to tell but if they are only offering it on high dollar coins at this point I say it helps. It will take the market to decide. I wonder now what will happen with the gold beans? If a coin is a 66+ it is on the high end of 66 but will there be a no bean, green bean, and gold bean just for the 66+? The other thing that seems to slip by people is a coin may have the grade it is assigned by the hidden rim. A rim nick or scratch may keep an awesome coin to a 65 when lets say for sake of discussion everything you can see would make it a 67. The coin would probably get a gold bean, and then if someone cracked it out they would find the small area unseen in the holder having just enough of a minor issue to keep the coin from upgrading.

    In any case I think the + will become more important than the bean because the graders at NGS and PCGS get the advantage of seeing the whole coin which is not possible on a coin already in a holder.

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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    They should use a “thumbs up” sign is it’s really good and a "NJ Tkp" salute if it’s inferior.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,610 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They should use a “thumbs up” sign is it’s really good and a "NJ Tkp" salute if it’s inferior. >>



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