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What would you grade this Jefferson War Nickel?

This is something I don't have a lot of experience at so I'm looking to you for help. Sorry the slab has some rubbed spots I had a hard time shooting through. I still need to get that slab cleaner stuff. Any comments good or bad welcome. It's a learning experience for me. Thx.

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65

    no FS
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    66 no FS
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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without looking at anyone elses opinion, I'm going to say MS 66, held back by what looks to me to be a little bit of a light strike. No FS.

    Like the die cracks in the head, and at 2 o'clock on the reverse.

    Nice one.
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797
    Just an observation...(beautiful coin BTW)...with the large hit or scrape in the upper left field (reverse)..would that still be a 66?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Thanks all. It's just a low cost piece I picked up for the heck of it as I thought it looked attractive in the ebay pics. In hand I like it even more. While it's slabbed, it isn't by one of the top 2. Sometimes it is just fun to buy something different and learn a little bit in the process. Speaking of "something different".... this one also arrived today from the same seller... I guess I bought it 'cause the design looked neat. Let's just say I'm not a focussed collector right now...

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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not gonna give us the grade yet huh?

    I "assumed" that the mark in the upper reverse field was on the slab, not the coin. Although from my very limited grading experience, that's about the only mark I see, and I don't think a 66 needs to have perfect fields does it?

    JMHO
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797
    Thanks all. It's just a low cost piece I picked up for the heck of it as I thought it looked attractive in the ebay pics.


    Well...................what was the grade...and by whom..?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Sorry... got sidetracked playing poker.

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    and the Russian piece is...

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66 no fs
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that "P" repunched or just lighting playing a trick on my old eyes?
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Strong 65, possible 66 at PCGS. Who can see enough detail in the steps to make that call? JMHO Shag
  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Strong 65, possible 66 at PCGS. Who can see enough detail in the steps to make that call? JMHO Shag >>




    image with the Shag...

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  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Strong 65, possible 66 at PCGS. Who can see enough detail in the steps to make that call? JMHO Shag >>




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    Steve >>



    I also agree with this but hopefully all those spots are on the slab that one under the t on the obverse sure looks like pvc damage
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cheek on Jefferson, the steps on the Monticello are the high points on the Jefferson nickel. Those areas plus a couple of others, like the high cheekbone, are more prone to hits and nicks than any other area of the coin. Same thing with the shield on the Kennedy half. Just wanted to throw that out there. image


    Leo

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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    To view a true MS-67 War Nickel, you need to have on sun glasses.

    Just thought I'd throw that out out there too!
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  • drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>To view a true MS-67 War Nickel, you need to have on sun glasses.

    Just thought I'd throw that out out there too! >>



    MS67fs; not great pics, but makes a statement:

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  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    Thanks again for the feedback. I also spent some time last night reading up on the "steps" and how to count them as well as the history of the "war nickels". It's pretty interesting. I also looked at a lot of pictures of similar nickels that I could find on the web to compare this one to PCGS and NGC graded coins.

    Just some final comments I'd make about this coin. While the pics don't show it that well, the luster is BOOMING. The thing almost glows... though I'm not sure that is an accepted numismatic term. I also got out a good 10x loupe and looked at it very carefully. Someone asked if maybe the "P" was doubled... it is not. That mark on the upper left reverse doesn't look nearly as bad in hand as it does in the picture and I don't see any luster breaks anywhere on the coin. The only spot I see on the entire coin is actually on the reverse just above the far right end of the monticello building, anything else seen is on the slab.

    In looking close at the steps and dividing them into the 4 sections as a couple places explained then from left to right I can easily count the steps as follows:

    1st quadrant = 6 steps
    2nd quadrant = 5 steps easily defined
    3rd quadrant = 5 steps defined but weaker
    4th quadrant = 6 steps

    I understand that there are those amoung us that would call this coin that "D" word or "modern crap". I mean heck.... it's not even a $30 coin... so why bother right? I'll tell you why... because I am a "collector". I enjoy coins for what they are and the history they represent. Sure I've bought coins that cost thousands of dollars.... or even multiple of thousands of dollars over the years. To tell the truth though I get an awful lot of enjoyment out of the $30 pieces like this one just the same as I have the "big" purchases.
    It's not always "about the money" and it sure doesn't take spending thousands of dollars for someone to enjoy this fine hobby. That's just my 5 cents on the matter image

    Happy Sunday all !!
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Years ago, I remember winning a 1945-S in an auction. It had this highly lustrous bloom effect about it that gave it exceptional eye appeal on luster and toning alone. It was also said to have full steps. It didn't and was returned. But more nickels have been graded MS67 with lustrous surfaces alone than coins that have more than 1 or 2 qualities.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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