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1968-D Dime Struck on Quarter Stock?

Bought a 1968-D Dime from the local B&M today, and it is considerably thicker than a regular dime. Weight is 2.9 grams. Could it be struck on Quarter stock? I would post pictures, but it looks like a normal dime other than being a little thicker. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

-Paul
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you see a copper core image
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you see a copper core image >>



    Yes.

    -Paul
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I would guess foreign planchet before quarter stock since a quarter planchet won't fit in the Roosevelt collar.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would guess foreign planchet before quarter stock since a quarter planchet won't fit in the Roosevelt collar. >>



    A quarter planchet wouldn't fit, but a dime planchet that was blanked out of rolls of quarter stock would.

    -Paul
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  • The weight of a dime struck on quarter stock would be the area of a dime divided by the area of the quarter. The only varaible between the two is diameter, so we can calculate (17.9/24.3) squared times the quarter weight of 5.67 grams.
    I get .5426(5.57) = 3.077 grams. Close enuff?
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember back around that time reading in Collectors Clearinghouse of a batch of clad dimes coming out that were made from quarter-thickness stock, but I don't remember the year(s) of the coins.

    They were the same type of error as the 1970-D quarters made from dime stock: somebody at the Mint put an entire coil of metal intended for one denomination into a blanking press set up to punch out blanks of a different denomination. You had thick dimes and thin quarters.

    The dimes were discovered when they were released into one area (Cleveland?) and the local telephone company was plagued with jammed pay telephones!

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • <<They were the same type of error as the 1970-D quarters made from dime stock: somebody at the Mint put an entire coil of metal intended for one denomination into a blanking press set up to punch out blanks of a different denomination. You had thick dimes and thin quarters.>>

    This happened at San Francisco and not being useable, were forwared to Denver as with certain other SF rejects. Denver wasn't too pleased with the end result.
  • errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭
    Yes, it's struck on quarter stock. This is the most common date. Other dates include 1965 and 1969-D.
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not at 2.9 gms, that would NOT be quarter stock.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,760 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not at 2.9 gms, that would NOT be quarter stock. >>



    A: Is the coin worn down?
    B: How accurate is the scale being used?

    The simple, and incredibly probable, answer is quarter stock until proven otherwise.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,760 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The weight of a dime struck on quarter stock would be the area of a dime divided by the area of the quarter. The only varaible between the two is diameter, so we can calculate (17.9/24.3) squared times the quarter weight of 5.67 grams.
    I get .5426(5.57) = 3.077 grams. Close enuff? >>



    I used 17.91 mm and 24.26 mm and got 3.09 grams, which Ed Fleischmann would have said was "Close enough for government work!"
    image
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,736 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not at 2.9 gms, that would NOT be quarter stock. >>



    A: Is the coin worn down?
    B: How accurate is the scale being used?

    The simple, and incredibly probable, answer is quarter stock until proven otherwise.
    >>



    I'm thinking that the percentage greater a type one planchet is to a type two
    would probably be more a function of diameter than weight which makes the
    3.08 g figure appear even closer.

    I bet they made a racket when they were upset.

    It's a wonder they got through.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for all the responses.

    To answer a few questions: The coin is uncirculated. The scale used to get the 2.9g weight is accurate.

    Any idea on value on something like this? Worth sending to NGC to get it in a holder?

    Thanks again.

    -Paul
    Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember back around that time reading in Collectors Clearinghouse of a batch of clad dimes coming out that were made from quarter-thickness stock, but I don't remember the year(s) of the coins.

    They were the same type of error as the 1970-D quarters made from dime stock: somebody at the Mint put an entire coil of metal intended for one denomination into a blanking press set up to punch out blanks of a different denomination. You had thick dimes and thin quarters.

    The dimes were discovered when they were released into one area (Cleveland?) and the local telephone company was plagued with jammed pay telephones!

    TD >>



    Wow!

    Ya learn something new everyday. Thanks Capt!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • <<I'm thinking that the percentage greater a type one planchet is to a type two
    would probably be more a function of diameter than weight which makes the
    3.08 g figure appear even closer.>>

    Cladking has suggested a possible variance in my calculation. My calculation would work if I had the diameters of the original blanks. The numbers I used were the finished coins which might be less than the original blanks when the rims are added and upset.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not have mint figures, but I think that type one blanks are pretty close in size to finished coins. The upsetting process makes them slightly smaller, and then they expand back outwards into the collar during the striking.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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