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Coin shows: personal checks in display cases...why?
RTS
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More than few times I have seen dealers place customers' personal checks face-up in their display cases at coin shows...even when the dealers are
absent from their tables the checks are in plain view though locked-up...at March Baltimore I noticed at least three tables with personal checks on display so-to-speak...name,
home address, account number, signature, amount etc. I don't really think the criminal element is trying to glean information from these rare instances but I find it odd
that the dealers just don't flip the checks over at least.
absent from their tables the checks are in plain view though locked-up...at March Baltimore I noticed at least three tables with personal checks on display so-to-speak...name,
home address, account number, signature, amount etc. I don't really think the criminal element is trying to glean information from these rare instances but I find it odd
that the dealers just don't flip the checks over at least.
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
or from today
My guess is that they were current checks from current purchases, as I said I noticed this at least three times on Friday.
If I was nefarious I could have easily snapped a picture.
Did you ask any of these dealers why they don't protect their customers personal information? I'd be interested in their response.
Two of the tables were unattended and most of the dealers I fear even interrupting their sandwich
I think this is a very, very poor practice and any dealer should really know better
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marilyn monroe. the signature itself was awesome to see.
<< <i>I have noticed this in the past as well- not yesterday, but perhaps I was just too pre-occupied with an issue associated with HK667.
I think this is a very, very poor practice and any dealer should really know better >>
Unless they are bad checks.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
This is a common practice in many small stores when someones check bounces.I have seen it here in brooklyn many times.The thinking behind it is twofold.
1) the person who wrote the check is usually told by someone that their check is on display affording them a chance to come in and buy the check back.
2)the displayed check serves as a warning to other businesses that this person has written bad checks.
<< <i>I have seen it here in brooklyn many times. >>
No foolin'?
Agreed. In my hobby of autograph authentication I see both the good and the bad checks in some delalers cases. Never really thought it about with regard to coins. My eyes are always beind drawn to Mercury Proofs. Most recent checks of interest I have handled were from Lou Costello to the Brown Derby, and Judy Garland for something to do with her TV show. I prefer contracts over signed checks as they are usually more interesting. However, a Burton check for booze is more interesting than that for drycleaning cleaning. The bad checks from buyers usually have a note though stating what they are. The forgeries are of course always listed. I think/i] the best check I ever saw was from Garland to a drugstore. The best example of her handwriting and it was a list of drugs and alcohol needed when changing hotel rooms. Oopps...gotta be coin related...this was 1967 - the year of the Special Min Sets!
Best,
Eric
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>They're bad checks. >>
More often not, actually. Often times the safest place to store cash and checks is in a display case although I can't totally understand why others don't place them face down.
Not all dealers care that much about their own reputations. One dealer at the Santa Clara show had a bad check on display in his case...from the (very well known) dealer set up directly across the aisle. The bad check dealer didn't care.
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What is the "meaning" of the pic in your sig line supposed to be? Can never make a connection...
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<< <i>I once bought a check at a coin show. It was one written by B. Max Mehl.
Russ, NCNE >>
Did you cash it?
What is the "meaning" of the pic in your sig line supposed to be?
It wins first place in the most annoying sig line pic contest.
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Ken
<< <i>OT question for the thread's oP:
What is the "meaning" of the pic in your sig line supposed to be? Can never make a connection... >>
Maybe these are the pink pumps that RTS wears to shows...
If it's a bad show he says there's no place like home 3 times and clicks his heels together
I too wondered about it, and figured they were bad chacks.
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<< <i>They're bad checks. >>
More often not, actually. Often times the safest place to store cash and checks is in a display case although I can't totally understand why others don't place them face down.
Not all dealers care that much about their own reputations. One dealer at the Santa Clara show had a bad check on display in his case...from the (very well known) dealer set up directly across the aisle. The bad check dealer didn't care. >>
LOL Wish I had seen that.
<<Not all dealers care that much about their own reputations. One dealer at the Santa Clara show had a bad check on display in his case...from the (very well known) dealer set up directly across the aisle. The bad check dealer didn't care. >>
Nice!
<< <i>To the OP and the others that said displaying bounced checks that a person has not made good is in bad taste. What would you do? Let it ride? This, displaying checks that are bad, has been around for decades.
Ken >>
Giving someone a bad check is even in worse bad taste.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Not all dealers care that much about their own reputations. One dealer at the Santa Clara show had a bad check on display in his case...from the (very well known) dealer set up directly across the aisle. The bad check dealer didn't care. >>
How is he treated by the other dealers? I assume they refuse to accept any of his checks.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
assumption is that the dealers thought it a nice safe place to keep their checks/cash.
<< <i>This is a common practice in many small stores when someones check bounces.I have seen it here in brooklyn many times.The thinking behind it is twofold.
1) the person who wrote the check is usually told by someone that their check is on display affording them a chance to come in and buy the check back.
2)the displayed check serves as a warning to other businesses that this person has written bad checks. >>
You see a check in a display case and see the "personal information" clearly visible to God and the world. Then you go across the floor to another dealer. Here, you decide you want to sell some of your coins. He's interested and offers a handsome price. You accept and take his check. Then you see that information matches what you just saw in a display case at another dealer across the bourse floor.
Do you ask yourself : "Why ?"
Why would you take that guys' check ? And if other dealers are armed with information that could lead you from harm's way, would it be good ?
I'm just thinking outloud based on the OP's post.
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<< <i>I once bought a check at a coin show. It was one written by B. Max Mehl.
Russ, NCNE >>
Did you cash it? >>
Nah, it had already been cashed. Like 70 years ago.
Russ, NCNE
Back in the 70's I owned Bob's Sentry Hardware in Castle Rock, Colorado.
In the years I owned it I posted bad checks under the glass next to the
check out register. The town was about 3000 people is all. Everyone
pretty much knew everyone.
In the first 6 months after opening I got 3 bad checks. Posted them and
they stayed under glass forever. In the next ten years I receive two bad
checks and both were not local checks.
So, posting the bad ones worked for me but I don't know how well it would
work for a dealer on the road. Perhaps it helps.
bob