2005 20th Anniversary ASE... PCGS Error???

Cheddy · February 21, 2010 5:24PM

The ASE program began in 1986; therefore, the 20th anniversary should be in 2006. Plenty of PCGS 2006 20th Anniversary ASE's on eBay prove that fact.

I have a 2005 coin that is slabbed "20th Anniversary" when in fact it is only the 19th anniversary. I can't find any others on eBay so I must ask, is this an error by PCGS? or is there a reasonable explanation for this?

PatchFanatic · February 21, 2010 5:31PM

Including 1986, the 2005 would be the 20th year that they were struck. Seems the mint got it wrong.

Cheddy · February 21, 2010 5:41PM

One of them has to be wrong...

PatchFanatic · February 21, 2010 5:52PM

The official 20th Anniversary Set was released by the U.S. Mint in 2006, even though the 20th Anniversary was 2005. I don't think either one of them is really wrong. From what I can see on eBay, the 20th Anniversary labeled 2005 coins aren't really drawing a premium over their 2006 counterparts.

wondercoin · February 21, 2010 6:02PM

2005 was, indeed, the 20th anniversary of the American Eagle PROGRAM adopted by Congress in 1985. I believe PCGS was technically correct in its wording on that 2005 holder.

Wondercoin

TrustNo1 · February 21, 2010 6:20PM

The 2005 issue was the 20th.... the mint realized they missed a golden op and scrambled ...I dont think it has anything to do with the when the program was signed into law....

illini420 · February 21, 2010 6:39PM

well, maybe they are both right

If you got married in 1986, you would celebrate your 1st anniversary in 1987 (even though it would occur in your 2nd calendar year of being married) and your 20th anniversary would be in 2006 (even though it would occur in your 21st calendar year of being married).

same goes for the coins here, with the 2006 being the 20th anniversary, and with the 2005 being the 20th coin of the series made during the 20th Calendar year of the Eagle program.

same story with the Lincolns last year. 2009 was the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln cent, even though it was the 101st calendar year in which they were made.

Res · February 21, 2010 10:35PM

<< <i>well, maybe they are both right

If you got married in 1986, you would celebrate your 1st anniversary in 1987 (even though it would occur in your 2nd calendar year of being married) and your 20th anniversary would be in 2006 (even though it would occur in your 21st calendar year of being married).

same goes for the coins here, with the 2006 being the 20th anniversary, and with the 2005 being the 20th coin of the series made during the 20th Calendar year of the Eagle program.

same story with the Lincolns last year. 2009 was the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln cent, even though it was the 101st calendar year in which they were made. >>

I agree with you completely, except for the statement that they are both right. There is only one 20th "anniversary" - 2006.

wondercoin · February 21, 2010 11:01PM

There may be only -1- "anniversary" of the 1986 COIN, but there was surely an aditional "anniversary" of the date Congress enacted the Eagle PROGRAM into law back in 1985? No?

Wondercoin

derryb · February 22, 2010 3:14AM

2005 Anniversary labels are PCGS marketing, nothing official from the mint.
2006 Anniversary labels are Mint Marketing, Mint's official anniversary year.
Mint was a year late.
Plenty of slabbed coins with both labels.

CaptHenway · February 22, 2010 3:22AM

<< <i>2005 Anniversary labels are PCGS marketing, nothing official from the mint.
2006 Anniversary labels are Mint Marketing, Mint's official anniversary year.
Mint was a year late.
Plenty of slabbed coins with both labels. >>

A blunder on the part of PCGS.
Fortunately, nobody was killed in the train wreck, so life goes on.
TD

johnperk747 · February 22, 2010 8:51AM

fyi . . both NGC & PCGS issued some ASE as 20th Anv. in 2005 (which would have been correct!!)
There are both MS & PR coins Dated & labeled as 2005 20th Anv. out there.
(I even sent some of both BACK in and had PCGS mark as "Pedigree" (not that it has helped me sell for very much

)

Check out PCGS #'S

10405830, 39, 43 & 45
11318940, 41, 42 & 43

frnklnlvr · February 22, 2010 9:15AM

Well the 10th Anniv. sets were released in 1995 right? So the mint should have done the 20th in 2005.

Bochiman · February 22, 2010 9:22AM

To MAE to
To MAH to

Marketing. Anniversaries can be taken differently as we had hashed this out on the forum a few years ago.
If you get married in 2000, then is 2009, or 2010, your TENTH anniversary?
It depends on where you start counting from, right?

So, replace the date of marriage with the release of SAEs. Where does your anniversary for the SAEs really lie now?

So, since the mint put out something in 1995, and weren't doing that in 2005, the services decided to put the label on it themselves (hey, 1995+10=2005, RIGHT?)
But, it got monkeyed up when the mint, in 2006, announced the 2006 20th anniversary release.

So, PCGS marketed their label in convention with what had gone before....counting from day 1 of the release of the SAEs rather than waiting a year.
Someone at the mint decided to count starting from the first year (1987) after the first release, and got 2006 as the 20th.

johnperk747 · February 22, 2010 10:09AM

We should all realize by now that the GOVERNMENT can't count . . . lol

Bochiman · February 22, 2010 10:12AM

<< <i>We should all realize by now that the GOVERNMENT can't count . . . lol >>

Actually, I am one of those that feel that 2006 should be the "right" 20th annv (21st coin, but 20th annv).

Of course, going by the first way, this is the 25th annv of the SAEs

2005 20th Anniversary ASE... PCGS Error???

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