1858 Flying eagle double die or strike doubling?

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  February 10, 2010 12:44PM

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• Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 10, 2010 10:00PM

  The shallower, shelf-like appearance of the doubling to me indicates strike doubling, not die doubling. The Cherrypicker's guide has a nice section explaining the difference, with lots of photos.

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• kranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭

  February 10, 2010 10:26PM

  I agree with walkerguy - strike doubling.

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• jakeblue Posts: 301 ✭✭✭

  February 10, 2010 10:42PM

  The AM of AMERICA is one of the major varieties for the 1858 Eagle. Your coin is the Large Letters variety. So called because the letters AM are connected. I have a 1858 Small Letters. Here is a close-up of the letters. Notice how the letters in my coin do not touch? That is the difference.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Edited to add a better picture to see the AM. Anything else about the AM or TE, check with The Penny Lady or Rick Snow.

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• notwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭

  February 10, 2010 10:44PM

  The date looks repunched, probably an overdate, but I don't know this series. --Jerry

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• notwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭

  February 10, 2010 10:48PM

  This just in---looks like there is a batch of replicas (fakes) with the doubling and repunched date. I googled 1858 cent fake and lots of hits. Here is one on ebay:
  
  replica

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• Lewy Posts: 594 ✭

  February 11, 2010 12:14AM

  I'll go with the RPD/strike doubling combo, (and supersize that).

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• EagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 11, 2010 12:27AM

  It is strike doubling on the date and on the legend.
  

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• flying1856 Posts: 16

  February 11, 2010 12:43AM

  Thanks for all the comments, I appreciate the help. I still struggle to see the difference between strike doubling and double dies but the more coins I get to see in person the better I will be to figure it out.
  
  What confused me was that they were all moving in different directions, the AM shifted left over the old AM, the TE was struck directly above the old TE, and the date also moved to the left over the old one. I guess that would be the coin shifting slightly to the right for the next strike?
  
  I'll see if I can get some better pictures of them to put up. Are there any tips to taking better pictures of coins? I tried for awhile last night and these were the most usable ones I could get.

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• kurtdog Posts: 1,456

  February 14, 2010 2:33AM

  Gosh that date is extreme, I see why you're inquiring! Look at the "foreshortened" "primary images," that's another one of the classic "tells" here. Do you see that 1, how thin that primary image is? In a doubled die, it would be full width. Great close-up shot, BTW, and I really like this one!
  
  PS: I have a circulated "Small Letters" 1858 currently on the board awaiting a grade opinion. This cent is in much better grade than mine. Can I ask what grade you give it? I'm really not very good at that.

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