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US Type Set Question #2
ChoppyBaywaters
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In my US type set, I have the following types of mint state Kennedy halves:
90% silver (1964)
40% silver (1965 - 1970)
Clad (1971 - present)
Bicentennial silver (1976)
Bicentennial clad (1976)
Clad, satin finish (2005 - present)
Obviously, a Kennedy half from the 2000s looks nothing like a half from the 1970s, so I was wondering: 1) Do you consider late model, low relief halves to be a separate Kennedy 'type', and, if so, 2) what year do you consider to be the boundary between the old design halves and the new design halves?
90% silver (1964)
40% silver (1965 - 1970)
Clad (1971 - present)
Bicentennial silver (1976)
Bicentennial clad (1976)
Clad, satin finish (2005 - present)
Obviously, a Kennedy half from the 2000s looks nothing like a half from the 1970s, so I was wondering: 1) Do you consider late model, low relief halves to be a separate Kennedy 'type', and, if so, 2) what year do you consider to be the boundary between the old design halves and the new design halves?
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Because of that I'd stick with the breakdown you have provided for your Kennedy halves and leave it at that.
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<< <i>Do you really need satin finish JFK halves for a type set? If so, wouldn't you also need an example each of matte proof, satin proof and brilliant proof Buffalo nickels in addition to your Type I and Type II Buffalo nickels? If you collect your Buffalo nickels that way then I would imagine including the satin JFKs in the set, too. >>
Well, I made the decision long ago to not include proof coins in my type set. (Had to save money somehow.) Since the modern satin finish coins come in mint sets, I consider them to be mint state examples.
You do make a good point, though, in that I may have overlooked some other MS types in my set. For the JFK series, I should probably include a 1965-67 special mint set example. For the Lincoln and Buffalo types, matte proof is still proof to me, so I would not include it. I'll have to flip through my Red Book to see if there are any other 'special mint state that aren't proof' types that I could include.
Choppy
<< <i>If you broke down the coin by type due to design modifications you would be stuck then doing so for all of them. After all, the Lincoln cent; Jefferson nickel, and Washington quarter look completely different today than they did when first minted.
Because of that I'd stick with the breakdown you have provided for your Kennedy halves and leave it at that. >>
So, how'd you guess my next questions? :-)
Actually, the Lincoln cent is pretty easy. I didn't notice the current low relief and swirly hair design until the 'Zincolns' were introduced in 1982, so I have a separate Lincoln type for 1982 - 2008. I didn't notice big changes in the Jefferson nickel until the redesign of 2006, so I have a separate type for that. Roosevelt dimes? I didn't notice much change in that coin. Washington quarters went to low relief and swirly hair sometime before the state quarters program began in 1999, so, like the JFKs, I may need to figure out when that change happened.
The JFK halves became an issue with me when I went to buy a nice, high-grade example for my "Clad (1971 - present)" type. I couldn't bring myself to buy one of the modern 2000+ coins to represent the type, as I just didn't think that they looked right. So, I ended up buying a coin from the late 1970s. Now I'm wondering if I do, perhaps, need another type to present the newer low relief swirly hair design. They really do look different!
Choppy