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Inflation killing Cent & Nickel - but will it bring back the Kennedy Half?

MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

As many expect inflation to eventually kill off the cent and nickel, would it revive the use of the Kennedy Half?


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    I hope so. I have always liked the 50c denomination. Maybe if the cent & nickel were dropped but who can tell. I also like the Sac $1's and look how they're doing.
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    RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭
    I hope not.
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    they should bring back the Franklin image
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    No, too big and heavy for pocket change.
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    nycounselnycounsel Posts: 1,229 ✭✭
    No.
    Dan
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. Most probably not.

    Either inflation will lead to the use of larger denomination coins or all coinage will become
    superfluous to tranbsactions. The only other significant possibility is the government will
    eliminate currency altogether. (unlikely for the near future).

    In any of these scenarios the half dollar is most unlikely to circulate. Not only is it gener-
    ally disliked because of its weight and reduced utility but in the eventy larger coins are
    instituted in commerce it will reduce the demand for quarters driving significant numbers
    into storage. In such an enviroment halfs simply would compound the problem rather
    than alleviate it.

    The only way I could see it happening is if the government finally got serious about sav-
    ing taxpayer money and using the resources available rather than spending to support
    some vested interest. You might laugh but I once read a scxience fiction story with just
    this theme.

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    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Only if vending machines, parking meters, etc. can adapt. But I doubt they will. So no.
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    No. Here's how I think it works. The thing you buy is invariably a few dollars. Do you hand over mounds of metal or a few pieces of paper. Most folks choose paper.

    You are given back a few bits of change. This is the tail end of the transaction to make it all come out even. Your handful of change is worth a tiny fraction of the paper you used for the purchase.

    Maybe, eventually, you re-spend the change. But that is a minor effect. The vast bulk of your currency dollars are in the form of paper.

    Since change has a long lifetime and gets used over and over again, the arguments about how expensive coinage is to produce are "diminishing arguments". It's less important than folks think.
    The government does make wholesale melting of coinage illegal so that they don't have to produce so much; they do want to limit the expense of course.


    I'd like to see coinage become more important in a transaction. That implies that we need higher denomination coinage.

    The half dollar is such a remnant. The weight changed a few times and so did the material, but the general size AND denomination has been preserved for over two hundred years.

    I wish we had coins up to $20.

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    Bring back a fifty cent piece the size of a nickel, when the cent and nickel are gone. The buying power of 50 cents is probably about equal to what a nickel would buy in the sixties. I'd love to see some multiple dollar denominations as well. Actually, since we've done OK without a half for a long time I guess I'd rather see a two and five dollar coin replace the cent and nickel. As I am one of those people that just crushes paper money under a twenty into my pocket I'd love to see the small denomination paper stuff go as well.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no.

    there seem to be too many factors working against what we all take for granted in a coinage system and it's really about time for the retards in Washington to wake up. i know that compared to the National Debt the savings would be miniscule, but to ignore anything which cuts cost is arrogant at this point in time-----and the current structure of our coinage system and cuurency system is outdated, uneconomical and just plain ridiculous.

    1. the Cent is a dinosaur which needs to be retired despite all the romantic, sympathetic pleas for its retention.
    2. the size/weight of the Nickel needs to be reassessed and changed.
    3. something needs to be done with the "middle denominations" we know as the Dime, Quarter and Half-Dollar, both in size and denominated amount.
    4. the Dollar coin just needs to be used. Governments govern and this is a case where ours just needs to tell us what we'll be using.
    5. we also need a coin denomination in a value larger than a Dollar, yet a size which doesn't make it cumbersome to carry.
    6. we need to eliminate the $1 and possibly $2 bills, figure something out to make currency counterfiet-proofer and increase our highest publicly used amount.
    7. money needs to be sunk into electronic systems which are fool-proof and facilitate more use of "Plastic" for EVERYTHING without putting any cost on consumers.

    the present economic crisis brings the sensibility to these things into the forefront, but they have been inevitabilities for many years. it's time for the Fed to pull their collective heads out of the sand and begin to Govern. America, a supposed World Leader, is burdened with a Monetary System which is over 200 years old. certainly it has been tinkered with over the years, principally during the mid-1800's when wave after wave of uncertainty seemed to be the norm. apparently we have become comfortable with the present broken system and uncomfortable with the spectre of change ahead. too bad, we need to learn to deal with it.

    i'm sure not well informed on the topic, but what developed country is still using an archaic monetary system that's 200 years old?? Geez, even the European Union figured this one out, can't we do the same??
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    1. the Cent is a dinosaur which needs to be retired despite all the romantic, sympathetic pleas for its retention.

    Keets- you're being naive. Romance and sympathy have nothing to do with it. It's all political lobbying and donations from the zinc industry.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Barry, it's all political, i know that. politics is what started the Nickel, keeps the Cent and fueled the decades long battle between the Gold and Silver lobbies. it's also what holds us hostage regarding the re-denomination of our system and the use of failed coins and currency. my "romantic and sympathetic" rant was directed towards the populace of both the country and particularly the hobby which bring grassroots pleas to their elected representatives.

    granted, i am naive, but not about this!!!image
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    swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    The cent has seen its time come and go, and the sooner it goes away the better. However, from a logistical standpoint, the nickel isn't going anywhere until they eliminate either the dime or the quarter, just because of the mathematics of making change.

    As for the half dollar, it is not viable as a circulating coin at its current size. If they were to make it smaller and distinctive, perhaps multi-sided, then it would circulate. It would, in any event, need to be usable in vending machines.

    In a perfect world, we'd see:

    Elimination of the cent, dollar bill, and two dollar bill
    Resizing of the half dollar
    Addition of a two dollar coin
    Reinstatement of the $500 and $1000 bill.

    But then in a perfect world I'd be dating Shakira. image
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