wrong to block bidder because the only feedback he's ever left is negative?

zep33 · January 26, 2010 7:53PM

Got a question the other other day from a potential bidder asking how the corners were on a card I'm selling - no problem there but there is a large scan.

I answered his question and just happened to check his feedback. Been a member since 01, has 251 feedbacks as a buyer. Was shocked to look at his feedback left for others.

He's left a total of 15 feedbacks, all of them negative for everything from didn't have his item within 12 days to mold on his items and a DVD that skipped.

I just don't feel comfortable dealing with someone like that - am I wrong?

WinPitcher · January 26, 2010 8:22PM

How many total transactions?

Steve

jay0791 · January 26, 2010 8:35PM

By not leaving well deserved positive feedback he is not doing ebay right.....15/252 negs...is still a very high proportion imo.
When you consider he asks questions first..and is then often unhappy......

zep33 · January 26, 2010 8:36PM

251 total feedback of 270 left, all as buyer, never sold a thing. Never left anyone a positive feedback.

Card in question is a shiny bowman's best auto that probably won't sell for much more than 20, has 5 watchers (I'm assuming he's one of them) and no bids yet

Here's the question I got too which does seem like the guy is a bit of a miserable person now that I see his past history:

"is the card mint with 4 sharp corners. Please understand I will bid if it is, I can't bid without an answer. thank you."

WinPitcher · January 26, 2010 8:55PM

Zep I asked cuz at one time a person could have a feedback of 200 and total transactions of 1000.

Not sure if that stat is still on ebay.

In any event, do what makes you feel comfortable.

Steve

TonyC · January 26, 2010 8:56PM

I'd block him in a heartbeat; one less bidder is not going to make or break the ending price, and letting him bid just isn't worth the aggravation.

WinPitcher · January 26, 2010 9:00PM

I can't bid without an answer. thank you.

Don't answer him, or if you do say:

Depends on what you say is mint. I can't say that a TPG would grade

this card as mint. Please see scan and make your own determination.

I personally would not block him he could wind up as an under bidder for my item.

Steve

thedutymon · January 26, 2010 9:40PM

Morning,
Afraid I have to disagree with Steve on this one, He would be on my BBL so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. Sounds like a clown to me, and with his record, for a low dollar card, why would you risk it?
By the way, give us his info I need to add him to my BBL.

Neil

WinPitcher · January 26, 2010 9:53PM

Neil

I agree, for a low dollar card sure, I said 'my item' I generally sell higher dollar cards

and I would use that clown to bid the item up.

I'm not into blocking ebayers on what ifs.

A person gets one chance with me.

Steve

onefasttalon · January 26, 2010 10:56PM

Seems it's always lower $$ sales that bring out the idiots that want to nit-pick.

Zep... you aren't 'wrong,' as there are many (of us!) that would do the same thing.
Steve's right though, the more under-bidders the better (for the seller,)... but... ya gotta
weigh the risk-vs-reward sometimes. Small transactions... easy decision IMO.

gecko109 · January 26, 2010 11:00PM

<< Morning,
Afraid I have to disagree with Steve on this one, He would be on my BBL so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. Sounds like a clown to me, and with his record, for a low dollar card, why would you risk it?
By the way, give us his info I need to add him to my BBL.

Neil >>

This is the correct answer.

Reljac · January 26, 2010 11:17PM

I would add him to my block list as well. You may be leaving a little money on the table, but I think most of us would if it meant avioding a pointless neg.

minnesotahusker · January 26, 2010 11:44PM

Can you post his user name (or IM me) so I can block him if I so choose?

zep33 · January 26, 2010 11:48PM

here's his name - jack-n-the-bx

block at your own discretion

goraiders · January 26, 2010 11:50PM

He left 251 negs out of 270?If so I also would like to have his info,
I do sell some cards in the $20 range here and there,don't want him bidding on
my auctions.

J.R.

hotmush · January 27, 2010 12:01AM

Hi Goraiders. I think what Zep33 means is that out of 250 transactions, he's never left positive feedback but he's left 15 negs for transactions he wasn't happy about.

zep33 · January 27, 2010 12:14AM

<< Hi Goraiders. I think what Zep33 means is that out of 250 transactions, he's never left positive feedback but he's left 15 negs for transactions he wasn't happy about. >>

exactly

zep33 · January 27, 2010 12:16AM

<< He left 251 negs out of 270?If so I also would like to have his info,
I do sell some cards in the $20 range here and there,don't want him bidding on
my auctions.

J.R. >>

LOL if that was the case, I don't think he would be allowed to bid on anyone's auctions.

He's only left 15 negs but never left anyone a positive.

thedutymon · January 27, 2010 12:20AM

Morning,
Added to my list.
Thanks
Neil

cardboardjunky · January 27, 2010 12:24AM

Block him. Some people you can never please and he sounds like on of them.

bbcemporium · January 27, 2010 12:30AM

Added as well. I see Steve's point about leaving money on the table, but personally, if I ever get the sense that I'm dealing with a potential problem buyer, he immediately goes on the list. Life is too short to deal with those types.

On a side note, whenever somebody asks me a question about an item I'm selling, it seems like rarely that person ends up winning or being the under bidder on the item.

jimrad · January 27, 2010 2:14AM

BBL

storm888 · January 27, 2010 3:03AM

BBL...........FAST!

.......

Also, I never respond to questions posed by numpty "buyers."

The SLIGHTEST indication that a potential "buyer" MIGHT be a
problem lands him on the BBL instantly.

ga5150 · January 27, 2010 3:07AM

I agree and think this buyer should be blocked, but have a question. How would one politely answer a question sent by a buyer that is on the blocked bidder list? It they try to bid, and then find out they are blocked, sometimes they will send an Ebay email and ask why they can't bid. Would you not respond at all, or simply state that they could have been put on the list for a number of reasons, or what?

Just curious how others handle this.

Rodney

tunahead08 · January 27, 2010 3:13AM

I agree with others who say BBL.

zep33 · January 27, 2010 3:24AM

If he does actually try to bid and contacts me I will just tell him the truth.

Just looking at his feedback again and see that he just recently added a reply to neg he left 7 friggin years ago

look at the dates:

Lied about toys being complete, poorly packaged, fraud charged filed with ebay. Seller: zorprime69 ( 89) Mar-15-03 15:59
Reply by zorprime69 (Sep-29-03 10:35):
To my knowlege toys were 'complete" as sold to me. Charges never went anywhere.
Follow-up by jack-n-the-bx (Jan-18-10 11:57):
Does not change the poor packing and you not fixing the issue

No doubts this guy is a douche

edit - He's actually recently updated a few of his negs

Feedback left for others

DeutscherGeist · January 27, 2010 3:39AM

The problem I have with him is that he does not give positive to anyone. I guess he cannot be pleased, so stay away.

vladguerrero · January 27, 2010 3:43AM

block him, as storm always alludes to this is the kind of red flag that should stop a transaction from happening. i recently sold a $20 card, no response/pay, relisted one and sold it for $40, I had a few so the next one I listed the original guy buys it with a family emergency story about him not checking ebay as the reason why he didn't pay for the first one, he pays I send the card from Canada without tracking (tracking would have been another $10 easy), guess what, oh the card never arrives according to the buyer (my first time selling when a card never shows up), it's too late for them to do a Paypal claim (which they tried) but I'm on the hook for the refund unless I want to take a neg, which I don't. I should have seen the flag...

Griffins · January 27, 2010 3:44AM

1000% with Storm.

nightcrawler · January 27, 2010 3:50AM

He sure sounds like a jerk worthy of a good blockage.

MULLINS5 · January 27, 2010 3:54AM

block him

storm888 · January 27, 2010 4:10AM

"...How would one politely answer a question sent by a buyer that is on the blocked bidder list?..."

/////////////////////////////////////

The only "polite" way to answer such an inquiry is NOT to answer it.

It is ALWAYS a mistake to communicate with someone you have BBLd.
There is no satisfactory resolution possible AND chatting about it is an
invite to future retaliation by the spurned "buyer."

Ignore the query and move on.

stevek · January 27, 2010 4:34AM

Blocked.

You would think that ebay would consider in their system closing the account of a buyer like this if he has a certain number of sellers blocking his bids - that should mean something.

stevek · January 27, 2010 4:39AM

<< Added as well. I see Steve's point about leaving money on the table, but personally, if I ever get the sense that I'm dealing with a potential problem buyer, he immediately goes on the list. Life is too short to deal with those types.

On a side note, whenever somebody asks me a question about an item I'm selling, it seems like rarely that person ends up winning or being the under bidder on the item. >>

<<< On a side note, whenever somebody asks me a question about an item I'm selling, it seems like rarely that person ends up winning or being the under bidder on the item. >>>

I've had some buyers ask questions and win bids, but you're right, it seems that almost always, the ones who ask the most questions and ask for additional scans, etc, often don't win the bid, and often don't even bid - it seems like they just enjoy being a pain in the arse, perhaps like those who constantly shop for cars or other things with no real intention of buying.

VintageCardLover · January 27, 2010 4:41AM

i would block him instantly lol
sounds like nothing but trouble.
i know my feedback as a seller doesnt matter, but i refuse to leave feedback for buyers who NEVER leave feedback (positive or neg)

schr1st · January 27, 2010 5:04AM

Agreed. Not worth the potential headache.

<< BBL...........FAST!

.......

Also, I never respond to questions posed by numpty "buyers."

The SLIGHTEST indication that a potential "buyer" MIGHT be a
problem lands him on the BBL instantly. >>

mtcards · January 27, 2010 5:11AM

After reading his feedback left for others...NO WAY I would want him to bid on my stuff. Definite DB for sure.

If asked why he is on BBL, I would politely tell him that he has a history of problems, up to and including thinking that packages will get there in 12 days. Heck, the USPS states that packages can take up to 9 business days, throw in 2 weekends and a holiday and youre already up to 14 days.

Boopotts · January 27, 2010 5:12AM

At the first hint of idiocy a potential bidder should be blocked. Without exceptions.

bbuckner22 · January 27, 2010 5:47AM

Besides him leaving the negative feedback, if you read them it looks like he never made contact with the seller to at least give them a chance to make amends with this d-bag. I've looked at other card sellers feedback from time to time, when I see negatives from what looks like a problem buyer they go directly to my BBL. Don't need or want that kind of aggrevation. So glad Ebay changed their policy about leaving buyers neg. feedback a few years ago. My percentage on deadbeat bidders has increased since then. Coincedence?

Bunker · January 27, 2010 6:12AM

BBL my third one today

WinPitcher · January 27, 2010 6:49AM

Geez what a herd mentality.

If I sold what he buys I might be inclined to block him.

Just because he has left 15 negs with 251 feedback does NOT mean that 251 transactions

is all he has, for all anyone knows he had 1000 transactions. (Unless he is a new ebayer)

I did not check.

The correct answer IMO is do what ever makes you comfortable, me? I'm not

comfortable following the herd in this situation.

I doubt he and I will ever cross paths anyway.

As for never leaving positives, who cares? I surely don't, if a customer of mine does not

leave a positive and does not contact me with a problem I have to assume all is ok.

I have his/her money, he/she has my item.

The stars are aligned.

Steve

vladguerrero · January 27, 2010 8:33AM

<< Geez what a herd mentality.

If I sold what he buys I might be inclined to block him.

Just because he has left 15 negs with 251 feedback does NOT mean that 251 transactions

is all he has, for all anyone knows he had 1000 transactions. (Unless he is a new ebayer)

I did not check. >>

maybe you should check, lol, i don't think people are blindly piling on to block him, he has 250 transactions with this account and his last 15 feedback that he's left were all negative, on top of that his responses and wording of the feedback makes him look like a jerk...

zep33 · January 27, 2010 8:45AM

Steve, this guy actually added more comments to his negative feedbacks 7 years after leaving a negative. 7 friggin years later he's still so proud of those negatives that he's got to add to them.

I didn't discover that fact about this douchebag until after I started this thread.

don't really think anyone can be much more of a jerk than that.

I now actually hope he tries to bid on my card now and then asks why he can't bid.

Estil · January 27, 2010 8:56AM

And I thought I was a picky buyer...

WinPitcher · January 27, 2010 10:07PM

Zep

I have no problem with you blocking him, I must have said so at least 2 times in this thread.

However, me personally am not going to block someone that I won't ever do business with anyway.

If for some reason he and I do cross paths I can make that determination at that time.

Yes maybe I should have checked to see exactly how many transactions he has Vlad

before I stated my hypothetical.

Steve

Edited to add: I did check and this person has been a member since 01.

This fact makes it possible that he has MORE transactions then 251.

How many sellers that he did NOT leave feedback too also left none?

If you remember Ebay switched formats, so saying he has 251 transaction for this account IMO is incorrect.

Now if I am still missing something (like how to find out how many total transactions)

a person has I'd like for someone to show me where that info is now located.

It was at one time on the front page.

It goes without saying this ebayer is a jerk, I'll take everyone's word for that.

jivan · January 28, 2010 12:34AM

no

NickM · January 28, 2010 12:38AM

Steve - 15 negs for 1000 transactions would still be a huge amount in the card field on eBay, indicating a problem bidder (unless the guy was a newbie who jumped in right away on a lot of Dutch grab bag auctions).

Nick

wrong to block bidder because the only feedback he's ever left is negative?

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