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The most important coin in my collection and the story behind it

fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have posted this coin a few times, but thought I would put it in its own post. I was home sick today and had a chance to go through some family history
Sorry for the long post, and forgive any spelling/gramar


The one thing that originally drew me into coin collecting as an 8 yr old kid was the idea that I was holding something really old.
As I grew older I began to understand the history behind my coins and this has fueled my passion for collecting. I feel one reason
I tend to be drawn to coins in VF-EF is that these coins were actually a part of history. These circulated coins were used in commerce by
every day people, some were carried as keep sakes and others were even carried into war.

The coin posted here is, to me, the most important coin in my collection. I became the caregiver of this coin in the early 1990's when my Grandfather
found out I had gotten into collecting old coins. At the time he was living in Florida and tauted me for months that he was bringing me a very important
coin for my collection when he came to visit. I will always remember the day I received this coin. We spent most of a beautiful summer afternoon going
through pictures, maps and stories all dealing with his time as a Seabee in the South Pacific during WWII. He talked about being cut off on Gudalcanal
and surviving on wormy oatmeal, being dive bombed by Japs every night, being stuck below decks on transport ships while Kamikazee pilots were crashing
into surrounding boats and how for years after he returned from the war he could not stand the sight of death (even a piece of road kill would bother him).
He talked of the many islands he landed on, the airstrips he helped build, his trips to New Zealand and Australia between Island invasions and
even how after his first experience being attacked at sea he never again was able to go below decks, no matter how cold or wet it got.
What my grandfather and the others who fought in WWII went through is something this spoiled 30 something can never imagine, but I am
very thankful for those who gave up their youth and sometimes their lives for what I have today.

In 1998 my grandfather passed away, I was still too young to truely understand what he had been through. Luckily my great-grandmother was a
meticulous record keeper. She saved every bit of v-mail, every picture he sent home and every newspaper article that had anything to do with the Sea Bees.
Two years ago my father gave me 4 large boxes, within them was a treasure trove of family history.
It contained everything from artwork done by my Great-Great Grandfather during the civil war, to the letter my Great-grandfather sent to his wife
telling her that he was on his way home after WWI. Within this box was the treasure trove of WWII corespondence.

here are some pictures that help tell the story of this most important Walking Liberty Half.

My grandfather picked this half dollar up in San Francisco right before he shipped out. To pass the time on the trip to the South Pacific he smoothed
the obverse off and turned it into a second dog tag. He then carried the coin throughout the war. The coin has a fair ammount of corrosion, which
I can only immagine came from the jungle environment and salt water. His first stop was guadalcanal. His Seebees went in right behind the marines
to construct an airstrip. My grandfather spent most of his time driving truckloads of cruched coral to form the base of the airstrip.
I will try and give some history with each of the pictures.


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These pics show his uniform sleve and one of the many V-mails I have. My grandfather always said he wasn't a very good soldier
He never really got promoted and said he liked it that way
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Some pictures he sent to my great-grandmother- all of the pictures below have the Passed Censor stamp
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My grandfather was the Drummer in the Seabee band, behind morgan horses, drumming was his second love
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Pictures of the truks dumping crushed coral
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His tent on Guadalcanal
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Standing by his truck. Told me by the end of the war they were pushing trucks, bulldozers and other
heavy equipment into the ocean to make room for the new stuff that kept arriving
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Bet my grandmother wasn't too happy about this picture, taken before he left California
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This pictures shows the guy in front of my grandfather being the thousandth, millionth or whatever soldier to enter this USO. The look on my
grandfather face is priceless as the guy in front got a medallion and a cash prize. All my grandfather got was a picture of the event
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭✭
    what a great post! thank you

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  • littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My God, what an awesome story! This is truly worth more to you than any other coin in the world. You are the caretaker. One day you will pass it on with all the associated memorabilia to your heirs.


    Larry L.


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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    aaaaaaaaaaaah, family history. A wonderful trove! Now it's yours to keep until you
    find the next keeper of the history!

    Thanks,
    bob
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I had a bigger award than a simple POTD for you fishteeth.

    I always loved the Seabee's motto "We build, we fight".

    Thanks for this post.

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting the pictures. My Dad spent ten months on Guadalcanal, but after the fighting was over. He was an M.P.

    One night he was out on traffic duty, and was supposed to be picked up at 7PM to go back to their operations center, where he would be available for other assignments until Midnight. The guy with the truck was watching a USO show, and didn't pick him up until after 8. Boy was he mad.

    While he was out, the Navy requisitioned an MP to help enforce the no smoking rule on a ship out in the harbor loaded with mines. During the night it blew. After the war they named the VFW post after his late comrade, Alexander Helemet.

    Glad your Grandpa made it back too. A lot of good men didn't.

    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • I have two great-grandfathers still alive (sadly, a third died last November) and both of them were in WWII.

    On my Dad's side, James Kivett was in the Navy on the LCI-502 which is like an amphibious vehicle as far as I understand. He was at Normandy on D-Day.

    On my mom's side, Claude Harrison was in the Air Force. He absolutely loved working on airplanes, so I believe he was a mechanic. He's been disabled for as long as anyone can remember, and spend his days in the VA hospital in Durham, NC.

    Thanks so much for sharing, Chris. An amazing lot of family heirlooms you have there.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    I have posted this before over the years, but the most important coin in my collection, is the only coin in my collection.

    This 1909-S Saint and accompanying note of congratulations were given to my grandmother as a wedding gift by her uncle, Max B. Mehl. The date 1909 represented her birth year and she left the coin to me. It is a perfect keepsake to remember her by.

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  • Excellent post. I wish I had a son like you.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,825 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have posted this before over the years, but the most important coin in my collection, is the only coin in my collection.

    This 1909-S Saint and accompanying note of congratulations were given to my grandmother as a wedding gift by her uncle, Max B. Mehl. The date 1909 represented her birth year and she left the coin to me. It is a perfect keepsake to remember her by.

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    Not too shabby either!
    TD
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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing that story fishteeth...Very cool memento...

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool. image


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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Mark's coin and story are equally awesome...in a different way. image

    I envy you both for having such a great family memento that happens to fit a hobby you're passionate about.

    I have some nice family heirlooms too...but no coins.
  • Great story! If your Dad got there in October he was in time for some of the biggest Japanese assaults of that protracted campaign, their aim was to take back the unfinished airstrip which the Marines had taken when they landed in August. Marine engineers had begun work on it and then were relieved by Seabees in October. One of the NCB(seabees) units on the 'Canal (I knew three 'Canal Marines and that is what they called it) received the Presidential Unit Citation for working under fire on the island. That is a great piece of history! Find a Guadalcanal history and spend some time learning about the US's first land offensive in the pacific war, an amazing tale.
  • My coin is a 1903-S Morgan(PCGS G06) that I found in my fathers dresser when I came home to take care of my mom. This is the coin that started me back collecting. I had it graded to preserve it.

    Dad was at Pearl Harbor on 12/7, USN Rigel, left the ship in a stationwagon assigned to the ship early in the morning to pick up supplies, as he returned, the attack began. He got out of the wagon and took shelter under a tarp covering supplies on the dock. After the first attack, he took the wagon and began taking wounded to the hospital, spent the rest of the day doing this. He was also a SP, I have a picture of him the next day directing traffic, had the wildest look on his face, they thought the invasion would be coming next. The Rigel was a repair ship, taking care of subs, as soon as an island was taken, they would move up so that the subs would not have to make the trip back to Pearl.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was a great post, Chris, thanks for sharing your family history and that very special Walker half with us! Kaz
  • Thanks so much for sharing, great story and keepsake.
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Truly a special post amongst the hundreds of others.
    Thanks for sharing such a great memory and reminder just why this hobby and it's history is just a tad more special than so many others.
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is an outstanding story. It reminds me of my grandfather when he was in WW2. He was also in Guadalcanal, except he was one of the few Army soldiers that were there. He was apart of the 25th Infantry division (Tropic Lightning), which was one of only two army divisions that were sent to that region during the war. Ironically mt grandfather died in 1998 like your grandfather did. He is the one that got me interested in coins, and I recieved his collection when he passed. Those pics by the way are great.
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet stories boys and thank you for sharing. Nice.....real nice...... MJ
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Wonderful post. My dad was also stationed in the South Pacific, he was a Navy bombardier and flew in B17's and B24's. Here's a few of his pics, he's the guy on the far right in the first pic. He always wanted to go back someday and visit the South Pacific, but sadly never got that opportunity. He always said in spite of the war, they were some of the very best years of his life. Interestingly, after the war the defense department was test firing missiles from Cali to Kwajalein, where my father in law helped to develop the Aegis system. My wife spent 3 years living on this small chunk of coral around the age of twelve with her family, and says it was the most memorable part of her childhood.

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  • That was a great story; I enjoyed it very much. It reminded me of my father’s time in the Navy during WWII; 44 months in the Pacific, from the Aleutians to Okinawa. He told me once of bored sailors who had stacks of new Walking Liberty halves who would stand on the deck of the ship at sea and try to skip the coins off the water. Yikes! He never gave me any coins, though, just a nice VF-ish $1.00 brown seal Hawaii note he had saved and some foreign currency from ports of call.

    That half is a real treasure! Thanks for sharing.

    Cartwheel

    P.S. To help keep his loved ones from worrying so much while he was at sea, my father told them he was never more than a couple of miles from land; they figured he could easily swim that far. What they didn’t know was that he meant a couple of miles from the bottom!
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice post with an intriguing tie in with numismatics. My grandfather also shipped out from San Francisco, the Presidio Army Base there. He spent the whole of his tour of duty guarding some remote Hawaiian island and was thoroughly bored and put off by his service, especially since his brother and his cousin were involved in the D-Day invasion and then the invasion of Germany.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great post and thanks for sharing... I just hope that Walker was a 1941-S or 1942-S and not the 1921-S image
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Great thread. image
  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great stories of The Greatest Generation! Thanks to all for sharing!
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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The "Greatest Generation" truly was. 17,18,19 year old boys, many of which had never set foot outside of a small town, accomplished the improbable. My father who turns 91 this Sunday received 5 battle stars, having fought his way through the South Pacific. He too endured Kamikaze attacks, being shot down, and other horrors never spoken of. These men are dying at a rate of over 2,000 a day. We must never forget them, or what they accomplished.

    Another remembrance if you don't mind.
    When I five years old (1957) we were at a Veterans Day Parade (these were a very big deal back then). I remember vividly my father pointing out the star of the parade. It was a very old man. My father said to look at him and never forget. The old soldier he referred to was 105 years old and had been a bugler with the Union Army at age 12. I can still see him waving to the crowd.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    Awesome story, thanks for sharing.
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  • steelieleesteelielee Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭
    Just great stories, thanks so much for sharing these personal glimpses.

    My dad was also a WWII Navy vet, a fighter mechanic on the Hornet. He worked on hellcat fighters. He and one of my uncles were just so reluctant to talk about their experiences and, evidently, this was and is very common. Never understood why until I began reading WWII history. UNspeakable events finally being brought to light..now I begin to understand why vets don't want to re-live a lot of their experiences.


    Several years before my dad died, he gave me his coin collection which I treasure. In his collection I found his Navy dogtags. They're not coins, but are they are the most treasured item I own.
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  • littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When I five years old (1957) we were at a Veterans Day Parade (these were a very big deal back then). I remember vividly my father pointing out the star of the parade. It was a very old man. My father said to look at him and never forget. The old soldier he referred to was 105 years old and had been a bugler with the Union Army at age 12. I can still see him waving to the crowd. >>




    Now that is really awesome! I remember back about 1962 my brother would play "Taps" at the Memorial Day event. I remember seeing all the "old" widows. These "old" widows were ones who lost their husbands in World War I! The sad part is, they weren't really "old." Some of them were in their late 50's and early 60's! But to a child, I guess they were old. As I approach the big 6-0 in a few years, I guess 60 isn't really that old......

    Thanks to everyone who made this a great thread!


    Larry L.


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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Chris, thanks for a great post and thread. Often, the truly 'best" coins are as much as, if not more about people and experiences, than the coins, themselves.
  • fishteethfishteeth Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks everyone for the great stories and pictures. I have a huge pile of pictures, letters and newspaper clippings to go through.
    I may add new pics as I come across interesting items.

    That 20 Dollar saint posted by Coinguy is amazing.

  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I love coins with history. That is one of the reasons I am doing a counterstamped type set. I don't have any numismatic stories from my own family that I know of, so I have to borrow other peoples.

    Thanks for the post.
  • GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    Wonderful story! So many of us have grandfathers who served in that war. Even those who came back physically, often did not return mentally/emotionally. I hope that today's veterans are given better treatment on returning from Iraq/Afghanistan than our grandfathers were coming back from WWII, but my guess is that not much has changed. Thank you for the terrific post!
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great story with nice photos, a coin, and countless memories. Thanks for sharing!
  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All of these stories are real, and great! Each individual played a significant role in building this country. Some of them didn't return home as well. These, too, are heros in my mind. Please check out this website, and particularly, if you are missing any loved one in your family (from Guadalcanal to Korea, Vietnam to France), really examine the links about mtDNA and family reference samples. If you know others (friends, church members, etc) who could benefit from this as well, please steer them to us.

    Thanks,
    Greg

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    Ps. I'll post a special coin sometime (if I can bloody find it) with a pretty cool story...here's a teaser...the coin is US, but it was found in North Korea.
    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great story, thanks for taking the time to post.
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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent post and thread !!
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing!image
    Becky
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    another WWII era coin:
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    I've read William Manchester's "Goodbye, Darkness" so many times it's starting to fall apart. A fantastic memoir and history of the Pacific War, I highly recommend it! Kaz
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    That is a cool story. My family is/was not big on heirlooms and saving things from a long time ago. Kind of sad imo. It is not a coin but i have a newspaper article and picture of my dad from the mid 1950's when he was a judge in Fort Worth tx. The DA said something that made him mad and he came over the bench swinging. The newspaper wrote a story and they had him and the DA pose for a pic together. lol I have coffee every morning with a WW2 vet of the pacific. He was a Coxsman? Boat driver of many a landings. He tells me some stories from time to time. He said the worst part of his job was bringing the injured and the dead back and forth.

    I was to young to ever go to MAX MEHLs business but i have been told alot from the old timers around here.
    Mark
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