Wilt auto update
gecko109
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Just wanted to let the forum know that I made good on my end of the bargain. You may recall that lsutigers1973 openly offered to publicly destroy that Chamberlain auto if a member here agreed to donate $30 to member stown's charity. Rather than run my mouth on how the auto was NOT legit, I stepped up and took Bill's offer. It was a win/win deal as a charity gets money AND a fake auto leaves the hobby for good. On a side note, member goraiders has tried his very best to slander my reputation on these boards by harassing me in unrelated threads insinuating that I was a non payer. Some of you may have seen this, but its important for you to know about this behavior for future reference.
Anyway, I made good on my contribution, lets see if lsutigers1973 follows through with our agreement.
Anyway, I made good on my contribution, lets see if lsutigers1973 follows through with our agreement.
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<< <i>Just wanted to let the forum know that I made good on my end of the bargain. You may recall that lsutigers1973 openly offered to publicly destroy that Chamberlain auto if a member here agreed to donate $30 to member stown's charity. Rather than run my mouth on how the auto was NOT legit, I stepped up and took Bill's offer. It was a win/win deal as a charity gets money AND a fake auto leaves the hobby for good. On a side note, member goraiders has tried his very best to slander my reputation on these boards by harassing me in unrelated threads insinuating that I was a non payer. Some of you may have seen this, but its important for you to know about this behavior for future reference.
Anyway, I made good on my contribution, lets see if lsutigers1973 follows through with our agreement. >>
I never once said or mentioned non-payment,I simply asked if you paid yet?True or false?
J.R.
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
True. However, when you follow me into UNRELATED threads and ask me "Did you pay yet" with no other context or relevance to those current discussions in those threads, that can possibly create negative feelings about me by other members who read it. It is therefore by definition, slander.
It was a simple t/f question,on behalf of stowns charity,thanks for the contributation.
J.R.
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
<< <i>Slander = verbal LIBEL = written >>
Whats that mean??
Needs'
1972 Football-9's high#'s
1965 Football-8's
1958 Topps FB-7-8
Also, just pat yourself on your back
no one cares anymore!
i was driving around in a wet Corvette and took a wrong turn on Potvin Blvd.
<< <i>You have not slandered Gecko (allegedly) but instead libeled him (allegedly) >>
Thanks for the clarification. Intentionally trying to ruin my forum credibility is libel. Had you kept your comments to the specific BST thread, well, then its at least debatable. But when you follow me into other threads I have created that have ZERO relevance to the subject, and make those same comments, you are attempting to damage my reputation. You even decided to ask me if I paid yet in a precious metal thread. You have NEVER before made a post in that forum. What were your intentions if not to hurt my reputation?
<< <i>For the record, I read parts of the thread about the Wilt Chamberlain auto and find it silly that one would pay $ for it even if it went to charities. I have turds that occasionally resurface in my toilet bowel that I would gladly sell and turn the money over to the Red Cross. The seller clearly realized his mistake and would've thrown the card away so your gesture to help remove a fake from the hobby was unnecessary as he had already pulled the auction >>
EXCEPT that he listed it on the BST here an hour after he pulled the ebay auction. That is what prompted this "deal" to destroy the card altogether.
<< <i>I think it was done as a joke/gag, surely he would've know people on this board would notice over there >>
Actually, no...it wasnt a joke or gag. He was allowing bidders to bid up the card on the BST with the agreement that the total sale price would go to charity. The only problem with that is what happens to the card in the new owner's hands? That is why I decided to accept Bill's offer to PUBLICLY DESTROY that card if I made a $30 donation to charity. Lets see if Bill follows through with our agreement. He now wants to submit the card to see if its genuine. He says if it comes back legit, he will just refund my $30, if its a fake, he'll forward my donation. He wants to turn my generosity into his personal insurance policy it seems.
<< <i>Just wanted to let the forum know that I made good on my end of the bargain. >>
Makin good like a drama queen would.
Thanks for the clarification. Intentionally trying to ruin my forum credibility is libel.
Gecko not for nothing but you have done that all by yourself.
Steve
No, he does not want to destroy a possible legit item.
Steve
<< <i>I have a water damaged title signed by Wilt. Worth anything? >>
"Little Wet Corvette" lol
<< <i>i was driving around in a wet Corvette and took a wrong turn on Potvin Blvd. >>
I am on my way to Office Depot to get a new keyboard since coffee shot out of my nose when I read that.
<< <i>I am on my way to Office Depot to get a new keyboard >>
I'm sure they have a couple of models for under $30.
collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.
looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started
now being held ransom by another person
Owell
<< <i>gecko - this thread really wasn't necessary and to be perfectly honest, it knocks your good intentions down a notch. >>
Based on what I observed, gecko didn't have any good intentions here from the start. He set himself up as savior to everyone so he'd have something to hold over Bill's head.
<< <i>The only problem with that is what happens to the card in the new owner's hands? >>
If someone wanted to pass a fake they would forge the signature to one (or many) of their own cards. Most likely the only person who would have purchased this signed card off eBay in the first place would have been a collector. The collector should educate themselves before their purchase. Teen pregnancy is a problem made aware of through sex education in the classroom, parents, observance, and/or personal experience. Perhaps you and others like yourself (DrJ) should work harder at educating people rather than buy up and destroy or keep every auto card which could be real, PSA offered a "quick opinion" and like contraceptives their PSA/DNA service is not bullet proof either. You can't prevent teens from getting pregnant, but you can provide them with knowledge (this very community forum). And don't put the blame on the guy for knocking up the chick.
Patrick
Whatever happens to the Wilt, I think this thread and others like it were self serving and unnecessary. JMO
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
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<< <i>The only problem with that is what happens to the card in the new owner's hands? >>
If someone wanted to pass a fake they would forge the signature to one (or many) of their own cards. Most likely the only person who would have purchased this signed card off eBay in the first place would have been a collector. The collector should educate themselves before their purchase. Teen pregnancy is a problem made aware of through sex education in the classroom, parents, observance, and/or personal experience. Perhaps you and others like yourself (DrJ) should work harder at educating people rather than buy up and destroy or keep every auto card which could be real, PSA offered a "quick opinion" and like contraceptives their PSA/DNA service is not bullet proof either. You can't prevent teens from getting pregnant, but you can provide them with knowledge (this very community forum). And don't put the blame on the guy for knocking up the chick.
Patrick >>
You are seriously using sex as an analogy for selling fake autographs? So I guess it's cool for anyone to sell fake autographs at any time? Is that what you are trying to say? That's what it seems a lot of people are implying here. The card failed the visual test and failed a PSA Quick Opinion, but it's still okay to sell it? So selling fake autos is always okay simply on the grounds of "everyone can be wrong about it's authenticity"???
Bosox1976
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But this will never die:
<< <i>"I never once said or mentioned non-payment,I simply asked if you paid yet?True or false?"
True. However, when you follow me into UNRELATED threads and ask me "Did you pay yet" with no other context or relevance to those current discussions in those threads, that can possibly create negative feelings about me by other members who read it. It is therefore by definition, slander. >>
My wife just slandered me the other day when in an unrelated conversations she asked if I had taken out the trash yet. To one man it's (mistakenly called) slander, to another it's called "a gentle reminder", and to another it's called "daily nagging."
On second thought, I'm gonna sue.
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<< <i>The only problem with that is what happens to the card in the new owner's hands? >>
If someone wanted to pass a fake they would forge the signature to one (or many) of their own cards. Most likely the only person who would have purchased this signed card off eBay in the first place would have been a collector. The collector should educate themselves before their purchase. Teen pregnancy is a problem made aware of through sex education in the classroom, parents, observance, and/or personal experience. Perhaps you and others like yourself (DrJ) should work harder at educating people rather than buy up and destroy or keep every auto card which could be real, PSA offered a "quick opinion" and like contraceptives their PSA/DNA service is not bullet proof either. You can't prevent teens from getting pregnant, but you can provide them with knowledge (this very community forum). And don't put the blame on the guy for knocking up the chick.
Patrick >>
You are seriously using sex as an analogy for selling fake autographs? So I guess it's cool for anyone to sell fake autographs at any time? Is that what you are trying to say? That's what it seems a lot of people are implying here. The card failed the visual test and failed a PSA Quick Opinion, but it's still okay to sell it? So selling fake autos is always okay simply on the grounds of "everyone can be wrong about it's authenticity"??? >>
Quick opinion is just that..an opinion...and PSA/DNA is only an opinion as well. We don't know if it is real or not but as a collector I wouldn't buy it, just as there are plenty of women who don't pass my visual test and/or my quick opinion, so I stay away.
Jeff
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You are seriously using sex as an analogy for selling fake autographs? So I guess it's cool for anyone to sell fake autographs at any time? Is that what you are trying to say? That's what it seems a lot of people are implying here. The card failed the visual test and failed a PSA Quick Opinion, but it's still okay to sell it? So selling fake autos is always okay simply on the grounds of "everyone can be wrong about it's authenticity"??? >>
Quick opinion is just that..an opinion...and PSA/DNA is only an opinion as well. We don't know if it is real or not but as a collector I wouldn't buy it, just as there are plenty of women who don't pass my visual test and/or my quick opinion, so I stay away. >>
I see. So it's okay to sell fake autos because PSA and experts can be wrong. Gotcha. I guess the entire fake auto industry was just validated, because hey, they COULD be real.
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You are seriously using sex as an analogy for selling fake autographs? So I guess it's cool for anyone to sell fake autographs at any time? Is that what you are trying to say? That's what it seems a lot of people are implying here. The card failed the visual test and failed a PSA Quick Opinion, but it's still okay to sell it? So selling fake autos is always okay simply on the grounds of "everyone can be wrong about it's authenticity"??? >>
Quick opinion is just that..an opinion...and PSA/DNA is only an opinion as well. We don't know if it is real or not but as a collector I wouldn't buy it, just as there are plenty of women who don't pass my visual test and/or my quick opinion, so I stay away. >>
I see. So it's okay to sell fake autos because PSA and experts can be wrong. Gotcha. I guess the entire fake auto industry was just validated, because hey, they COULD be real. >>
Bill listed the item raw, ungraded, and unauthenticated...buyer should do their homework in listings like that...but some don't as they are giddy and gullible and believe that chicken soup soothes the teenage soul Also, Bill didn't have any reason to think it was fake...from what I understand I believe he even added a PSA Quick Opinion link to the eBay listing...
Plenty of autos that are real don't look real and would fail PSA's test
Here is a blog about an autograph collector in NYC.
http://nycautographcollector.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/05/saturday-may-23-2009-philadelphia-phillies-hotel.html
He ran into Arod outside of his appartment and got arod to sign a card.
Would that auto pass PSA/DNA? Probably not. Does that mean it isn't real? Certainly not.
With raw, an-authenticated autos, it is important for the buyer to make an informed decision.
TPG are not the end all, say all of the auto business.
In that sense, Patrick is right and SCT and the OP are wrong.
Steve
<< <i>The hole just gets deeper and deeper.
Steve >>
Careful Steve, it may put you over the 25K mark before you know it.