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"Toning is to Silver Coins what RUST is to Iron!!!"

GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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"Rainbow Colors is a sign of damage"

To whom can these quotes be attributed to and in what publication???

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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Groucho, harpo, chico, zeppo, and ricko
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No correct answer yet image
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  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    I think ricko lives in the NORAD cave, doesn't he?
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weimar White?????

    Drunner
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Weimar White?????

    Drunner >>



    Ditto...

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am scratching my head as to why the colors of the toning would matter, rainbow colors or not. And just to answer your question, I can't remember for the life of me who its was that made that quote.
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Weimar White?????

    Drunner >>



    Close,,,,, but incorrect. Recheck the article image

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  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    Whoever they were....they were quite incorrect image


    Toning protects the surface of a silver coin......rust completely destroys the metal.....hence the reason that 2000 year old silver roman coins can be pulled out of the ground cleaned up a bit and still show full details image
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The quote was from an article in Coin World published Oct.10, 1994 written by Susan L. Maltby.

    It was also published in the book "Coin Chemistry" written by Weimar W. White.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who knew that tarnish would be so wildy popular. That tarnished Stone Mountains in 67 we discussed earlier sits at a bid of $5,750 and isn't done yet. White Stone Mountains in 67 go for $750. To each is own..............Collect what you like. MJ
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ooooh, I... ya know, I .... oooooooh!

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Not sure that is an accurate statement. Rust will ultimately turn iron to a pile of dust.

    Toning of silver will not IIRC.


    Steve


    edited to add: I'm assuming you are talking about a silver coin and an iron pipe.

    I could see film containing silver nitrate turning to a pile of dust.


    Good for you.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The quote was from an article in Coin World published Oct.10, 1994 written by Susan L. Maltby.

    It was also published in the book "Coin Chemistry" written by Weimar W. White.

    GrandAm image >>



    Yes you are right!! Toning is to silver what rust is to steel......I also have the same book " Coin Chemistry" by Weimar W. White...I suggest you toner lovers read it ,you might change your tone
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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Weimar White?????

    Drunner >>



    Close,,,,, but incorrect. Recheck the article image

    GrandAm image >>

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    You are quite right, and Weimar is quite wrong!!
  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To me a rainbow toned coin is natures work of art and rust doesn`t come to mind........image

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>To me a rainbow toned coin is natures work of art and rust doesn`t come to mind........image

    AB image >>



    AB, I fear Ricko will be coming around to knock your snowman over anytime nowimage

    MJ
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>To me a rainbow toned coin is natures work of art and rust doesn`t come to mind........image

    AB image >>



    AB, I fear Ricko will be coming around to knock your snowman over anytime nowimage

    MJ >>



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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Rust is the wrong word to use if you want to make a corrosion metaphor with silver coins.


    I'd liken the corrosion you see on a silver coin to the bluing process you see on gun steel.


    'Blue' steel is a black oxide of iron that does not have the 'mechanically blooming' qualities we associate with rust. It is protective rather than destructive.

  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    This thread should be renamed a toast to ricko... cheers image
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  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683 ✭
    ah yes, the same old inaccurate bullcrap ... reminds me that W. White similarly refered to the formation of a thin silver sulfide layer as "oxidation" ... how could any educated chemist make that mistake ?!
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rust?
    Black?
    Oxide?


    Hmmmmmmmmmmm


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  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭


    << <i>This thread should be renamed a toast to ricko... cheers image >>



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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭


    << <i>reminds me that W. White similarly refered to the formation of a thin silver sulfide layer as "oxidation" >>



    I am an educated chemist and what White said is correct. It may seem counterintuitive, but oxygen is not required for oxidation to occur; all you need is an electron acceptor (and sulfur works just fine in that regard). The formation of silver sulfide is an oxidation/reduction reaction. In the reaction, silver (a 0 charge element) ionizes, loses one electron and is oxidized to Ag +1. Sulfur (also a 0 charge element) ionizes, gains two electrons and is reduced to S -2. The balanced equation is 2Ag + S > Ag2S. The layer of ionic compound (Ag2S) that covers the surface of unreacted silver physically separates the two reactants.
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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    I sold this rusty old POS a couple weeks ago...image NGC MS67*FB


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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭


    << <i>Rust is the wrong word to use if you want to make a corrosion metaphor with silver coins.


    I'd liken the corrosion you see on a silver coin to the bluing process you see on gun steel.


    'Blue' steel is a black oxide of iron that does not have the 'mechanically blooming' qualities we associate with rust. It is protective rather than destructive. >>



    Good answer! The original quote is not a good one. Makes you feel like toning is crap. I like toning. How else are you going to have an old coin thats original? Dip it once a year?
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