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Show some coins which were bodybagged for "altered surfaces"...

I have a difficult time recognizing altered surfaces on raw coins. Anyone good some good pictures what I should look for? While studying some coins in hand would be great as well, hopefully this thread will be able to educate me a bit moreimage

Dennis

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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    One major impediment to such a thread is that often, the problem will not be apparent in images. Nor will viewers necessarily even know what type of alteration has supposedly been done.
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    I seem to be of the impression that "Altered Surfaces" is something of a BB catch all
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  • << <i>I seem to be of the impression that "Altered Surfaces" is something of a BB catch all >>



    I was going to say the same thing

    "Altered Surfaces" seems to be sort of a cop-out. If they (the graders) can't figure out what's wrong with a coin, but it just doesn't look "right," then they call it altered surfaces.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I think the "altered surfaces" notation is used when the coin has been cleaned, but cleaning hairlines are not obvious.
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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll post one.............

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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the "altered surfaces" notation is used when the coin has been cleaned, but cleaning hairlines are not obvious. >>



    I have an SLQ that's in a Genuine holder for cleaning, not a hairline on it.
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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭


    MS details, altered surfaces. No luster remained whatsoever....

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS details, altered surfaces. No luster remained whatsoever....

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    Almost looks bead blasted. Why would anyone reck such a nice coin?
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,903 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>MS details, altered surfaces. No luster remained whatsoever....

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    Almost looks bead blasted. Why would anyone reck such a nice coin? >>



    At one time, it may have been polished to the point it looked like a mirror. A bead blasted finish looks a little more natural-almost like a matte proof.




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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
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    I guess I accidentally deleted the rev photo.
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    That 1861 IHC looks just fine to me...
  • This is the only coin I have had come back with "altered surfaces". I did not know what a whizzed coin looked like when I submitted this. I know now. You cant tell from the photo but its very noticeable in hand.

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    << <i>I think the "altered surfaces" notation is used when the coin has been cleaned, but cleaning hairlines are not obvious. >>



    I have an SLQ that's in a Genuine holder for cleaning, not a hairline on it. >>



    let me guess 1917 T1. I just got back a submission with a T1 that was BB for improperly cleaned, not one damn hairline on the coin!
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think the "altered surfaces" notation is used when the coin has been cleaned, but cleaning hairlines are not obvious. >>



    I have an SLQ that's in a Genuine holder for cleaning, not a hairline on it. >>



    let me guess 1917 T1. I just got back a submission with a T1 that was BB for improperly cleaned, not one damn hairline on the coin! >>



    Nope, a 1919-P with a reverse lamination on it. Bought ti from Larry in the Gen holder. I can bring it to Old Bridge on Sunday if ya wanna see it.
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    << <i>I think the "altered surfaces" notation is used when the coin has been cleaned, but cleaning hairlines are not obvious. >>



    I have an SLQ that's in a Genuine holder for cleaning, not a hairline on it. >>



    let me guess 1917 T1. I just got back a submission with a T1 that was BB for improperly cleaned, not one damn hairline on the coin! >>



    Nope, a 1919-P with a reverse lamination on it. Bought ti from Larry in the Gen holder. I can bring it to Old Bridge on Sunday if ya wanna see it. >>

    image ill show you mine when i get it back.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One major impediment to such a thread is that often, the problem will not be apparent in images. Nor will viewers necessarily even know what type of alteration has supposedly been done. >>



    Nor will the owners of the coins. I never figured out what the problem is with the IHC posted above....
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>One major impediment to such a thread is that often, the problem will not be apparent in images. Nor will viewers necessarily even know what type of alteration has supposedly been done. >>



    Nor will the owners of the coins. I never figured out what the problem is with the IHC posted above.... >>

    Jerry, it probably wont make any difference, but do you feel like posting a reverse image?

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