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NEWP: French 1792 Lyons Medal! Libertias Americana/1793 Half Cent design

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
Just picked this up from Coin Rarities online. The price was more than fair, and significantly less than what I have seen from other dealers. This example is a very nice gunmetal gray. The dark spot on the reverse is nearly invisible in person. It looks Mint state to me as I do not any signs of wear. Some history about the medal:

This important medal was struck for the artist's reunion convention in Lyon, France in 1792. On the truncation of the lady on the obverse, the name Galle is clearly engraved. Obviously, the design was taken directly from the Dupre 1783 Libertas Americana medal which was struck to commemorate the end of our Revolutionary War and our joint victory with France over England. The obverse depicts a women with bold curls sweeping down the back of her head, with a small cap extended on a long pole behind her. Since Roman times slaves often wore caps, and during those rare times when slaves won their freedom, this was symbolized by extending their slave caps on poles for all to see. The reverse of this medal notes the convention of the artists, and is dated 1792. A splendidly engraved oak wreath encircles the reverse.
As both France and America overthrew their respective kings in the late 1700s, the slave's cap extended on a pole was emblematic of each country's freedom from kingly rule. The medal states that it was struck in the first year of the French Republic.
As France was exploding into its own revolution for the third year when this was struck, precious and base metals were seldom available, so this medal was made from church bells which were melted down to make the large planchets on which to strike these. Popular with collectors as this design was probably used to model our first half cents and large cents in 1793, with the cap extended on a pole lasting a few precious years before the design was changed to the Draped Bust by Gilbert Stuart.

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Ankur

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,563 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool. image
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Beautiful piece

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Sticker. image
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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  • Very nice.
    BGG
  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 3,294
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  • Very cool piece to add to a half cent set or libertas americana gathering. Any idea on how many were struck?
  • Most excellent piece. image



    << <i>It looks Mint state to me >>



    Since medals don't circulate that's a good bet! I guess medals could have wear as a pocket piece though?
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  • image That is just super!!!!
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    She looks like Fabio before he got hit in the face by a goose!!
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you know, I absolutely love the head on this piece and on the Libertas Americana.

    However, about the hat: it looks like an afterthought that was squeezed into an otherwise beautiful design.

    Tell me, is the hat about 1/4 the size it would need to be to fit her (if the pole is on her shoulder), or is the hat size proportional to her head, but looks so small and low relief because it's hanging on a pole about 8 feet behind Miss Liberty and it looks that small because of the perspective?

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>you know, I absolutely love the head on this piece and on the Libertas Americana.

    However, about the hat: it looks like an afterthought that was squeezed into an otherwise beautiful design.

    Tell me, is the hat about 1/4 the size it would need to be to fit her (if the pole is on her shoulder), or is the hat size proportional to her head, but looks so small and low relief because it's hanging on a pole about 8 feet behind Miss Liberty and it looks that small because of the perspective? >>




    I would guess that its a stretchy hat :-D
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!


  • << <i>

    << <i>you know, I absolutely love the head on this piece and on the Libertas Americana.

    However, about the hat: it looks like an afterthought that was squeezed into an otherwise beautiful design.

    Tell me, is the hat about 1/4 the size it would need to be to fit her (if the pole is on her shoulder), or is the hat size proportional to her head, but looks so small and low relief because it's hanging on a pole about 8 feet behind Miss Liberty and it looks that small because of the perspective? >>




    I would guess that its a stretchy hat :-D >>



    I always assumed it was the engravers attempt to create perspective.
  • I don't mean to be inappropriate but how much did it cost? These types of medals are fascinating me more and more.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A beautiful and historic piece..
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't that a Phrygian cap on a pole? It has nothing to do with fitting on her head. It is a symbol of liberty.

    Google Phrygian cap or Pileus cap for some good reading.
    Lance.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Lance,
    Thanks for that information! Most examples of this medal I have seen have prices of $1200 to $1700. This one cost me far less thanks to the Coin Rarities online early bird email.

    Ankur
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • Anything Libertas related is just freakin' cool image
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Super Pickup! image
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