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1953 Franklin - Agree or not with the grade?

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    .........At pcgs it would go FBL IMO........
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes. Reasonable shot at FBL, but the upper part of the lower lines to the left of the crack look iffy.
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  • calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭
    I think a Ms 64 may be in order as the marks are in the focal area.
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    I think MS64 was a gift ...........
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Seems right. Shot FBL at PCGS maybe as well.
  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    I think MS64 was a gift ...........


    Paul why do you always sugar coat it!..........image
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    It looks like a 63+ with an outside shot at FBL, so MS64 non-FBL appears to be a reasonable choice/possibility.
  • pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920 ✭


    << <i>I think MS64 was a gift ...........


    Paul why do you always sugar coat it!..........image >>



    Really, no? Always gotta wonder what he's really thinking.... image
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭
    Seems like a lot of chatter on both sides for 64.
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I actually think the grade is correct, I just wanted to hear some other opinions.
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO it is overgraded by one point. It looks like a 63 to me.
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    The coin is a decent 64; correctly graded.
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin has found its final resting place. It's not a 64, but an average 63. I'm surprised NGC gave it a 4.

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    cheezhed

    The lesson to be learned here is...Do not take great photos and blow them up for this crowd....Nice looking coin and FBL IMOimage
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I am with Mark MS-63+. Nice luster but way too many

    marks on face and some are deep. The FBL seem to fade in

    and out so I would say no on FBL from PCGS.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would agree. It might be on the low side of a 64 but it looks nice and looks close to FBL.
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Many a Frankie in MS64 with strong Luster has mucho chatter, keeping it from GEM status..

    I haven't a problem with this one in a 4 holder....

    As for FBL, I need to see this one in person...

    This would be a coin I would crack out and place in one of my albums, and hope Frankie would tone...
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  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Looks 64FBL to me.
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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Many a Frankie in MS64 with strong Luster has mucho chatter, keeping it from GEM status..

    I haven't a problem with this one in a 4 holder....

    As for FBL, I need to see this one in person...

    This would be a coin I would crack out and place in one of my albums, and hope Frankie would tone... >>



    That's exactly where it's going Lucy, into an album I'm putting together.
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  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭


    << <i>It looks like a 63+ with an outside shot at FBL, so MS64 non-FBL appears to be a reasonable choice/possibility. >>




    I agree....about what I expect to be in a MS64 plus or minus a half point.
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  • …… Posts: 958 ✭✭✭
    theres definitely a wheel mark evident on the reverse towards the top of the liberty bell in that photo. It probably should've bagged.
  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks slightly weak strike FBL
    looks 64 ish
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  • Mercury10cMercury10c Posts: 2,958
    Accurately graded.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the MS64 grade is a gift, too. It looks like many MS63s I've seen. I just don't find that coin appealing at all. And, no on the FBL.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    first thought 63 possible FBL............scuffy in the main focal areas..........
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    ......never look a gift horse in the mouth !
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yes, I can see ms64,

    it's either that or a strict ms63.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>theres definitely a wheel mark evident on the reverse towards the top of the liberty bell in that photo. It probably should've bagged. >>

    I'm not seeing it and don't know how you can be so certain, based on that image.
  • ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    Hmmm... IMO, 64 is a bit of a stretch...

    Just as there are differenin g opinions on this thread (all about the same coin, I might emphasize), if there is more than one person grading coins at NGC - or PCGS, for that matter - it shows that sometimes, opinions, like grades, are subjective.

    Nevertheless, this is a nice looking coin.
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