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Guess how many 1867 Shield 5c w/rays in PCGS and NGC MS65 have been offered by Heritage in the past

No cheating! Edited to add: Remember, we're talking PCGS and NGC MS65 combined.

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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    I guess that was a fitting 5,000th post, wasn't it? image
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    Positive:
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd guess 7, but suspect I may be high. I know this is a tough coin in 65 and up.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guessed 1-5, which coincidentally is also the range of number of people who care. image
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    The wit is in the truth of a joke, isn't it?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The wit is in the truth of a joke, isn't it? >>



    Could you dumb it down a bit for me? image
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭
    No idea, but I'm guessing it's low.

    How many of those offered are repeats?
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of the 11 -15 votes is a total WAG. image

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    And you underestimated for your WAG, right?
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    And my question will cause even more underestimating.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    [deadpan]I know that everyone has been waiting anxiously for the answer[/deadpan]. My Heritage search turned up the following:one more than three years ago in 2006, two in 2005, and one in 2003. The next most recent was in April 1999 (four years earlier and more than than 10 years ago). So, the correct answer (at least according to the results of my search of the Heritage auction archives) is four, less than one every other year on average. Take a close look at the next 1867 5c w/rays that crosses your path and enjoy the scarcity of the piece.

    Edited to add: "on average"
  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>[deadpan]I know that everyone has been waiting anxiously for the answer[/deadpan]. My Heritage search turned up the following:one more than three years ago in 2006, two in 2005, and one in 2003. The next most recent was in April 1999 (four years earlier and more than than 10 years ago). So, the correct answer (at least according to the results of my search of the Heritage auction archives) is four, less than one every other year on average. Take a close look at the next 1867 5c w/rays that crosses your path and enjoy the rarity of the piece.

    Edited to add: "on average" >>



    Hmm. I'm counting 32.

    (I guessed 11-15)

    2nd edit: changed 34 to 32
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    I don't know if the "oops" belongs to me or to you. Perhaps you're looking at both w/ and w/out rays together?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is a Shield 5c w/rays image

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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    oops I answered the question for the PR65 rather than the business strike
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975


    << <i>

    << <i>[deadpan]I know that everyone has been waiting anxiously for the answer[/deadpan]. My Heritage search turned up the following:one more than three years ago in 2006, two in 2005, and one in 2003. The next most recent was in April 1999 (four years earlier and more than than 10 years ago). So, the correct answer (at least according to the results of my search of the Heritage auction archives) is four, less than one every other year on average. Take a close look at the next 1867 5c w/rays that crosses your path and enjoy the rarity of the piece.

    Edited to add: "on average" >>



    Hmm. I'm counting 32.

    (I guessed 11-15)

    2nd edit: changed 34 to 32 >>



    Dammit. image I included PCGS only in my search, so the "oops" belongs to me. But I'm still right because only PCGS 65s are really 65s.

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't know if the "oops" belongs to me or to you. Perhaps you're looking at both w/ and w/out rays together? >>



    Checked again. Lowered the count to 32, but I did make sure not to count the no rays. (I accidentally had two 1866's in the count.)

    For the record, I used the old search feature, just searched on "1867 MS65" (no quotes), both the options "search titles and descriptions" and "include items not sold" were checked. Gave 99 results. Went through the list by hand back to late 99, and counted 32. Made sure all 1867, all with rays, and all either NGC or PCGS. It's possible that if I went through each listing some of the "rays" peices may acutally be no rays pieces misattributed. But the included pop reports would suggest that 32 is not a strange result.
    --

    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Ed - See the post before your most recent.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, I'm surprised the number was that high.

    What are the pops?
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    PCGS: 27/4
    NGC: 49/10
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> But I'm still right because only PCGS 65s are really 65s. >>





    << <i>PCGS: 27/4
    NGC: 49/10 >>



    The data seems to support this as well.

    I know when I was trying to add a nice 64 to my collection, I became discouraged rather quickly in the NGC examples offered in that grade, so to see something similar in 65 is not unsurprising -- but I didn't expect the gap to be quite that wide.

    Very interesting.....
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Um coinfacts is showing 10 coins to have been sold since 2006????
    what am I searching incorrectly?
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The wit is in the truth of a joke, isn't it? >>



    Could you dumb it down a bit for me? image >>



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