Help needed--do these errors have any extra value

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 4:56AM

hello. First time here from the currency side. I have these 2 proof coins--a 2005 quarter and 50 cent piece. Are these errors significant enough or what? Any help is appreciated.
this has a small die crack: It is a West Virginia coin

I do not know what you would call this one:

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 5:13AM

<< <i>What is killing my interest in helping newbies here >>

As a newbie maybe I should have read this before asking for help/information.

FredWeinberg · December 1, 2009 5:17AM

The Proof Kennedy Half is a 'struck thru' on the head;
it might have a premium to an interested Kennedy
collector, or a small premium to an error collector.

The line on the Washington Quarter doesn't really
look like a die-crack, from what I can see. It's either
some type of residue, or possible a thin piece of
plastic/cardboard/? that's on TOP of the surface of
the coin.

If it turns out to be a die crack, then yes, it has a
premium - I'd guess $20-$30 or so.

Hope this helps.

coinkid855 · December 1, 2009 5:20AM

<< <i>The Proof Kennedy Half is a 'struck thru' on the head;
it might have a premium to an interested Kennedy
collector, or a small premium to an error collector.

The line on the Washington Quarter doesn't really
look like a die-crack, from what I can see. It's either
some type of residue, or possible a thin piece of
plastic/cardboard/? that's on TOP of the surface of
the coin.

If it turns out to be a die crack, then yes, it has a
premium - I'd guess $20-$30 or so.

Hope this helps. >>

What he said.

-Paul

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 5:21AM

Thanks! No, it is an actual crack or some other term but it is definitly on the coin itself.

shorecoll · December 1, 2009 5:21AM

FYI, I think the slam was about people that are only interested in flipping stuff...with a handle like historymajor you get a free pass, unless you really push it.

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 5:27AM

Maybe this shows it better. That little mark under the "A" is also on the coin--just as it came from the proof set.

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 5:30AM

<< <i>with a handle like historymajor you get a free pass, unless you really push it >>

Thanks!!

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 9:19AM

Any other comments on the coins? The currency forum is not even close to being this busy.

LotsoLuck · December 1, 2009 9:36AM

You heard it from one of the best in the biz

tincup · December 1, 2009 9:46AM

My first reaction on the quarter was also that it is residue.

But I see both marks end (or start) at the rim... which supports what you are saying that they are a die crack or....

If the marks are raised metal, they may be die gouges. A die crack usually is not so bold and straight. If it was a die gouge, there would likely be some collector value.

Another possibility would be a strikethrough, with the items still retained in the coin. But this seems less likely to me due to the fact the item stops abruptly right at the rim; could be just a coincidence but a strikethrough would possibly have shown on the rim also.

So it is hard to tell without a closer look, etc.

tincup · December 1, 2009 9:53AM

As I think about it more, a die gouge would probably not show on the 'T' since it would be recessed on the die. So scratch that....

Most likely residue.

HistoryMajor · December 1, 2009 10:13AM

Thanks Tincup. Your comments lead me to investigate further. I used a 21X magnifier and discovered that the "gouge" or "crack" was really part of the rim of the coin that is peeling off--if that is the proper way to describe it. The new pic illustrates this. The black lines along the rim leads to the break point and the rest is peeled up. How does this affect the value--up or down?

tincup · December 1, 2009 11:21AM

Looks like you have figured out what is going on with the coin.... that sure looks consistent with your photo. Looks like the smaller piece under the 'A' is where the larger piece broke off and rotated upwards.

I do not know the proper terminology for this type of error or any potential value. I would think there would be some value, especially with the larger piece still attached. Neat find!

Help needed--do these errors have any extra value

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