Is ANACS going back to the blue insert?

frnklnlvr · November 19, 2009 7:40PM

I got a submission back from ANACS yesterday and one coin had the yellow insert and the other had the old blue insert. Has anyone else seen the blue insert on recent submissions?

Connecticoin · November 19, 2009 8:14PM

Mine were all yellow, but that was about 2 months ago. I hope they go back to blue.

BUFFNIXX · November 19, 2009 8:49PM

I just emailed anacs and asked this question, is insert now blue or pumpkin. I personally thought the pumpkin colored insert was hideous. Not only did Mr. Taylor ruin anacs and icg in my opinion, but this last change of color insert to pumpkin from the light and dark blues they originally used with their current large holder left me a bit baffled. It is almost as if they are trying to discourage people from trying their service. Imagine having a large accumulation of the new large anacs holders with the blue inserts and then getting your first submission returned with this ugly pumpkin colored POS. It would be a positive step to go back to the blue inserts. But then you probably have a few people who like da pumpkins and then they would be mad. So in a way anacs cannot win. Bethca before long the reintroduce the small slab that they had a few years ago. It was a unique product and many many collectors liked it. I think anacs is a trainwreck on a oneway trip to the bottom. They will probaly offer the blue insert as an option for five dollars. And then can offer the small slab as an option too. They are probably half way their -- to the dust bin of history that is. buffnixx

Stuart · November 19, 2009 11:24PM

The yellow labels seemed to me like a cautionary color used to to flag problem coins...

frnklnlvr · November 19, 2009 11:38PM

I'd like to see them go back to the small white holders too. I really don't use ANACS anymore. These two coins were mis-attributed so I sent them in to have the labels corrected, at no charge of course. My first thought was they had some blue inserts leftover but it would be a positive step if they're going back to using blue.

Barry · November 19, 2009 11:38PM

The insert color makes all the difference in the world as to their credibility

ttown · November 19, 2009 11:45PM

Who cares about the color of insert. I just want them to grade the coin correctly which the yellow labels seem to be very strict on the coins I've purchased since the new ANACS took over, maybe they learn a lesson at IGC and they won't start out strict only to dumb down their standards over the years.

I just don't get all the energy spent on things like holders or FS. The coin is all that matters unless you collect holders IMO.

oreville · November 20, 2009 12:16AM

My friend and I are having 100 special Purple Heart Hall of Honor November 2006 opening ceremony medallions encapsulated by ANACS utilizing a custom made purple colored label that we worked out with ANACS. I have seen the sample paper and it is going to be awesome!

Daniel Carr had used a special silver colored label with ANACS for his issues. It is also very pretty.

My personal opinion is that ANACS would be best using a nice light green colored paper for their labels.

I will never ever accept the yellow paper ones and have told ANACS that to their face each time. It is more like a puke color.

Scoham82 · November 20, 2009 12:32AM

I just got back an order that had a blue labeled morgan which needed a discovery label. To my surprise it came back with a blue label.

SDavisCoins · November 20, 2009 12:48AM

The blue labels are only supposed to be used for coins that were sent in for reholdering and that were originally slabbed during the previous ownership.

frnklnlvr · November 20, 2009 1:32AM

<< The blue labels are only supposed to be used for coins that were sent in for reholdering and that were originally slabbed during the previous ownership. >>

That makes sense because the '51-S was in a small white holder and the '61 proof had the yellow label before being reholdered.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Welcome to the boards!

airplanenut · November 20, 2009 1:55AM

<< I will never ever accept the yellow paper ones and have told ANACS that to their face each time. It is more like a puke color. >>

Did it ever occur to you that there is a coin inside the holder, and it looks the same regardless of the color of the label?

oreville · November 20, 2009 2:33AM

<< Did it ever occur to you that there is a coin inside the holder, and it looks the same regardless of the color of the label? >>

Indeed there is a coin inside the holder but my brain can't handle the yellow color while looking at the coin. I have to cover it up each time. Exhausting work each time.

Remember yellow is a low level alert color. It is a warning color. Wrong color to use.

Remember;

green is go
yellow is warning/caution
red is stop

blue is a soothing color not always in vogue.

relicsncoins · November 20, 2009 2:35AM

I'll tell you what I would do if I was in charge of a struggling second tier grading service that was suffering from a percieved consistancy problem. First I would put some time and research into a holder design that collectors liked. I would send out out a survey asking collectors what they want to see in a holder design. I would then design this holder and leave it alone from that point forward.

Next, I would offer a guarentee that the coin would cross at the same grade or higher at another TPG. If it did not cross, I would pay the difference in price from the grade assigned to the grade it crossed at.

Lastly, I would hold my graders accountable for their work. I would have periodic reviews of coins that were graded under these new standards. If my graders were not consistent then I would simply look for new graders.

These changes would cost the company money up front, but in the long run would establish credibillity with collectors and dealers.

Gandyjai · November 20, 2009 2:53AM

I like the yellow inserts because the DIVA stickers look HOT with a yellow background!

Brian

I Love

DIVA & Error Ikes!

airplanenut · November 20, 2009 2:57AM

<< Next, I would offer a guarentee that the coin would cross at the same grade or higher at another TPG. If it did not cross, I would pay the difference in price from the grade assigned to the grade it crossed at. >>

That would give PCGS and NGC great reason to not cross the coins for a while so they can drive you to bankruptcy.

<< Indeed there is a coin inside the holder but my brain can't handle the yellow color while looking at the coin. I have to cover it up each time. Exhausting work each time. >>

I can't say I've ever had a problem looking at the label instead of the coin. Maybe I would if the slab were solid black...

BaseballAbs · November 20, 2009 3:00AM

I personally like the blue. Maybe they should go black or silver. Classy!

relicsncoins · November 20, 2009 3:05AM

<< 

<< Next, I would offer a guarentee that the coin would cross at the same grade or higher at another TPG. If it did not cross, I would pay the difference in price from the grade assigned to the grade it crossed at. >>

That would give PCGS and NGC great reason to not cross the coins for a while so they can drive you to bankruptcy.

<< Indeed there is a coin inside the holder but my brain can't handle the yellow color while looking at the coin. I have to cover it up each time. Exhausting work each time. >>

I can't say I've ever had a problem looking at the label instead of the coin. Maybe I would if the slab were solid black... >>

True, but if the crossing was done by Anacs under an alias or several aliases, and sent in raw, that would negate this problem.

coin22lover · November 20, 2009 3:32AM

ANACS should definitely go retro and bring back the small white holders. 'Nuff said.

Type2 · November 20, 2009 3:38AM

<< 

<< Did it ever occur to you that there is a coin inside the holder, and it looks the same regardless of the color of the label? >>

Indeed there is a coin inside the holder but my brain can't handle the yellow color while looking at the coin. I have to cover it up each time. Exhausting work each time.

Remember yellow is a low level alert color. It is a warning color. Wrong color to use.

Remember;

green is go
yellow is warning/caution
red is stop

blue is a soothing color not always in vogue. >>

What is white.

BUFFNIXX · November 20, 2009 9:23AM

Here is the official response I got from anacs concerning the labels today....

Hey Tom,

The gold label is used for coins that are submitted raw or for reholders that were originally graded after January 1st 2008. Your friend must have submitted a coin that had been graded by us prior to that date. When this occurs, the label used is the blue one. This indicates that the coin was originally graded prior the purchase of the company by the new owner.

Please let me know if you need anything else.

Paul A. DeFelice
Vice President, Client Services and Marketing
ANACS

So the above response from Paul was quick which I appreciated. Still I don't think they gave any thought as to how the collectors using anacs would like this color change. I personally do not like the pumpkin color, but others may. Owner change crossover date of 1-1-2008 could have been accomplished by keeping the blue insert and making some other subtle change on the holder insert or perhaps the reverse hologram. So, now we know why anyway

Tom Arch
buffnixx

Raybo · November 20, 2009 9:59AM

I really like the old holders, plain and simple.

SamByrd · November 20, 2009 11:18AM

<< I just emailed anacs and asked this question, is insert now blue or pumpkin. I personally thought the pumpkin colored insert was hideous. Not only did Mr. Taylor ruin anacs and icg in my opinion, but this last change of color insert to pumpkin from the light and dark blues they originally used with their current large holder left me a bit baffled. It is almost as if they are trying to discourage people from trying their service. Imagine having a large accumulation of the new large anacs holders with the blue inserts and then getting your first submission returned with this ugly pumpkin colored POS. It would be a positive step to go back to the blue inserts. But then you probably have a few people who like da pumpkins and then they would be mad. So in a way anacs cannot win. Bethca before long the reintroduce the small slab that they had a few years ago. It was a unique product and many many collectors liked it. I think anacs is a trainwreck on a oneway trip to the bottom. They will probaly offer the blue insert as an option for five dollars. And then can offer the small slab as an option too. They are probably half way their -- to the dust bin of history that is. buffnixx >>

sadly you are corect in your observations. I use to prefer ANACS and still like to buy the small holders. Taylor sunk ANACS.

Rampage · November 20, 2009 11:24AM

<< Next, I would offer a guarentee that the coin would cross at the same grade or higher at another TPG. If it did not cross, I would pay the difference in price from the grade assigned to the grade it crossed at. >>

This is not something anyone can guarantee. You would be nuts to do so. Every coin is different and each person looking at the coin might have a different opinion. Doing it your way would purposely make ANACS undergrade coins only so they would not have to pay out in case PCGS or NGC differed in opinions. That would sink your business even more.

Is ANACS going back to the blue insert?

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