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JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
As most of you know, my car was broken into during my return from a show last month.
I received many phone calls about the missing coins, but nothing matched.

On Oct. 29, I received a call from an eastern dealer who does not want to be named at this time. He was being offered some coins and asked me about them. After he had mentioned three coins, I was virtually certain that these were, indeed, the stolen inventory.

I then called the police detective that had been working on the case and gave him the information. By late that afternoon, he had set up, in conjunction with the FBI and another agency, a meeting for the next morning to view the coins.

Early Oct. 30, my son, Sam, and I drove to meet with the assembled law enforcement officers. The original plan was abandoned and the eight officers then went to the place that the coins were supposed to be, while Sam and I waited to be called to identify the items.

After nearly an hour, I was called and eventually told that it really wasn’t necessary for me to identify the coins, as my name was all over them. A few minutes later, I went and saw the coins, which were all mixed up, but very few had been removed from the 2 X 2’s and I don’t think that any had been broken out of their encapsulation, either.

The following Tuesday, I went to examine the coins more closely and found over 1700 coins and 300 notes in the custody of the FBI. The vast majority of the volume was there. There were some notable items missing.

The following week, the FBI made another visit, but no items were found. On Nov. 12, the FBI called and said that they were going to get some more coins and on a subsequent call, I was told that more coins including at least one item that I had noted as still missing, previously.

I have not been to examine this second group of coins yet, but will do so in the very near future.

As of this date, the original thieves have not been apprehended and I am not certain of exactly what else might be missing. This is an ongoing investigation and I am being as forthcoming as I am able to be at this time.

I am unable to express, adequately enough, my appreciation to the hundreds of well wishers and especially to the many, many, people that pledged money to a reward fund that was started by Jon Lerner and Laura Sperber. Many of my colleagues in the PNG also added to this fund and I will be eternally grateful to them, as well.

The numismatic press and the general press gave this a great deal of publicity and I believe that because of this publicity, the coins were able to be identified. I want to express my appreciation to, in no specific order, Coin World, Krause Publications, the Coin Dealer Newsletter, Heritage Numismatic, the various dealer networks, as well, and of course the message boards on CU and NGC. Doug Davis of the NCIC offered me his good offices, as well.

The law enforcement agencies, from the local police to the FBI, have been true professionals and are continuing to be as supportive as possible. I will probably never be able to properly express my appreciation to them either.
PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic!!!
    Andy Lustig

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that eastern dealer deserves extreme accolades,
    however they probably have to be secret accolades.
    LCoopie = Les
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • This is fantastic news!! Bad karma to those who did this in the first place!
  • Great news! and thank you for sharing what you can.
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
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    FAN FREAKING TASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Julian this is AWESOME News! I'm so happy to hear that these have been recovered.

    Mazel Tov!
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  • << <i>that eastern dealer deserves extreme accolades,
    however they probably have to be secret accolades. >>



    And that reward money!
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Nice to hear almost everything has been recovered -- that's great news! But it will be even nicer when the thieves are busted. Obviously there are still open questions about that based on the story, but I'm assuming these are details that need to be kept quiet so as to not jeopardize the investigation to apprehend them -- and leave it at that.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,944 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Julian for sharing "The Story!"
    I'm very happy for you and your family!
    This is a great day!!! image
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Wonderful!!!!

    I hope the other items show up soon!!
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    This is wonderful news and shows how the community can pull together. I, for one, am truely glad the coins did not go underground and that resolution (partial anyway) has come in a reasonable amount of time. I hope you get all your coins returned and that few if any get hung up in the judicial system... that evidence thing and all.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • Wonderful news, Julian! I am so happy for you and hope you are able to get back all that was taken from you.
    David Schweitz
  • At last some Goodnews!!!!

    I am sure it will be a better Thanksgiving in at least one household this year.

    Dan
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    The glass is half full!
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    Looking forward to the apprehension and mugshot.
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  • IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975
    Excellent! Now let's get the bad guys, too.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great news! That's about as good an outcome of this mess as I could have imagined.

    Best, RYK
  • Great news; at least the coins were recovered. Lets hope the good luck holds and you find these image and make their day.image
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    awesome news. good things come back to good people.

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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So glad for you! imageimage
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  • CiccioCiccio Posts: 1,405
    Great news!

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Julian: This is wonderful news! image Thanks for sharing this update with us. At least you know that the encapsulated coins would not have been damaged through any potential type of improper mishandling by the perps.

    That's one benefit of slabbing -- protecting the coins from some types of potential unforeseen damage...

    I second the earlier posted Mazel Tov!

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • Coll3ctorColl3ctor Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭
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  • Excellent news Julian -
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Good news.


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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Superb!
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • That is a relief! I so happy many of the stolen items have been recovered. I hope you get the rest of the items sooner or later!
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great news! Are there any leads to the perps based on who was offering the coins to the unnamed dealer?
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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Excellent! Now let's get the bad guys, too. >>



    Indeed! Get the rope...
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  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    This is absolutely fantasticimage

    Julian, I am very happy to hear this and hope that you will never experience it again, with hopefully all the other coins returned soon as well.

    Dennis
  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very, very happy for you Julian. Have a great Thanksgiving!
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  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations!
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Great news
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  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    Congrats Julian!
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And hope the we get to hear "The rest of the Story soon".

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Excellent! have they given you any idea how long they need to remain in their custody? --Jerry
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭
    Nice to see things are moving in the right direction. image
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  • That is great news Julian.
    I trult hope that you recover all your property.
    The FBI and local police police should all get accomadations for their great work.
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  • << <i>That is great news Julian.
    I trult hope that you recover all your property.
    The FBI and local police police should all get accomadations for their great work.
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    Sounds like the dealer network and not the police did a lot of the work but never the less.

    Great outcome for a great guy. It helps me sleep at night that the demographic that is most likely to resort to a life of crime tends to be the one least likely to outsmart a common house plant.

    As always, my best to you Julian

    John Coyle
  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great news indeed!! image
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    This is terrific news, Julian!

    I hope that the rest of the items are recovered soon, that the perpetrators are captured quickly, and that your inventory is returned to you in short order!


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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭
    Yahoo!
    image Respectfully, Mark
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    When I think how glad so many people are to hear this news, I can scarcely imagine how thrilled YOU must be.

    When someone spends a lifetime building goodwill in the numismatic community, it pays off in a time of need. It has been very impressive to see all the people who have taken action to help in this situation. It says a lot about you, and them.

    Adding my hopes to the others who look forward to recovering everything and seeing the perps caught.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was back and forth as whether to say this... but with good news can come a little jest...

    the recovered coins should get certified/re certified and labeled "julian leidman heist"

    but in all seriousness... I truely am happy for julian and wait as well to see the mugshots of those %@$%&amp;
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is great news Julian!

    I'm very happy for you!
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the recovered coins should get certified/re certified and labeled "julian leidman heist" >>



    Cute, but I think that a Garrett or Eliasberg pedigree will still be worth much more!
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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