1916- D Merc. will it upgrade?

hiijacker · November 17, 2009 3:13AM

Here are some photo of a merc dime I picked up in a NGC holder. I am thinking of either submitting in holder to PCGS or cracking it out, but I want a second opinion on what you thought it would grade.

19Lyds · November 17, 2009 3:24AM

Some of those photo's make it look like its been cleaned.

I do not know what this coin currently grades but strongly advise that if you do submit for a cross over, DO NOT crack it out.

hiijacker · November 17, 2009 3:26AM

Is that based on the hairlines? Because those are actually on the holder.

mdwoods · November 17, 2009 3:29AM

No, the images aren't too large. Hmm, I'd guess VG8-10 for the grade.

doh · November 17, 2009 3:41AM

Looks like a G6, maybe VG8, to me. Images make it look shiny...hope it's just the images.

rld14 · November 17, 2009 3:47AM

I'd only try crossing that if it's an an NCS holder.

291fifth · November 17, 2009 3:49AM

Photos are too poor top make any judgement. Making them large doesn't help.

kryptonitecomics · November 17, 2009 4:06AM

<< Photos are too poor top make any judgement. Making them large doesn't help. >>

I agree....I don't think those photo's are doing that coin any favor....white balance is way off and the coin looks like it was scrubbed but I assume a lot of those lines are on the slab and not the coin?

Steve27 · November 17, 2009 4:12AM

Appears to be VG8 but cleaned IMO.

JBTurner · November 17, 2009 4:27AM

Right on... Cleaned VG8

drei3ree · November 17, 2009 4:38AM

<< Right on... Cleaned VG8 >>

dsessom · November 17, 2009 4:50AM

It's probably been cleaned, BUT - since it's THE key, and it's already in a TGP holder, PCGS will probably cross it over. But, as said previously, DON'T crack it out.
I guess the grade is VG8-10. PCGS would probably give it a G6. They tend to undergrade keys, or at least, they grade them with a much closer eye.

doh · November 17, 2009 5:01AM

<< They tend to undergrade keys, or at least, they grade them with a much closer eye. >>

Do you have any examples of this? It's pretty widely known that TPGs grade keys a bit looser. Borderline coins are usually given the benefit of the doubt and coins with minor problems (like this 16-D) get into holders whereas a common date with that same minor problem would be bagged (or gennied)

dsessom · November 17, 2009 5:40AM

<< 

<< They tend to undergrade keys, or at least, they grade them with a much closer eye. >>

Do you have any examples of this? It's pretty widely known that TPGs grade keys a bit looser. Borderline coins are usually given the benefit of the doubt and coins with minor problems (like this 16-D) get into holders whereas a common date with that same minor problem would be bagged (or gennied) >>

Well, right off the top of my head, I had an 1886 Liberty nickel a while back that I though was a sure bet F12, maybe F15 that came back from NGC in a VG10 holder.

Then, I recently submitted several IDENTICAL (as far as I could tell) Ike's, one was a 1976-P Type 1 (semi key), a 1976-D Type 1 (common), and a 1974-P (common), and I'm not kidding, these coins were identical in every way I could tell, except for the date and mint mark. Here were the results:

3 1 15994026 7415 1974 $1 US MS65
4 1 15994027 7418 1976 $1 Type 1 US MS64
5 1 15994028 7420 1976-D $1 Type 1 US MS65

The semi-key 1976 Type 1 price guide at 64 is $60, and $285 at 65.

Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems that the TGP's tend to scrutinize keys and even semi-keys. Maybe I just have rotten luck though...

doh · November 17, 2009 5:50AM

Well, this coin is in a F12 holder. I always thought the obverse was a VG10 and it got a bump because of the date. I don't own it anymore, so I guess it's moot.

dsessom · November 17, 2009 6:03AM

Hmm, yeah good call on that one. Definitely not F12. Like I said, maybe I just have bad luck.

1916- D Merc. will it upgrade?

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