Guess the grade please

soty27 · November 17, 2009 1:54AM

Billet7 · November 17, 2009 2:00AM

MS66BN

dsessom · November 17, 2009 2:00AM

I'm not great with Lincolns, but I will guess MS65RB?

lkeigwin · November 17, 2009 2:06AM

Very unusual look! I like it.

Assuming it wasn't "genuined" for color, or environmental damage (pitting on the left obverse?) I would grade it 66RB. PCGS is conservative on color and probably gave it a BN rating.
Lance.

tbarreca · November 17, 2009 2:09AM

MS-64 RB.

stevendaniels · November 17, 2009 2:18AM

65rb, I think the small marks on the shoulder keep it from a 66.

pheh · November 17, 2009 2:21AM

65RB

InternetJunky · November 17, 2009 2:23AM

Im in the 65 crowd

soty27 · November 17, 2009 2:27AM

Hint:
The coin is not MS... it is __

adamlaneus · November 17, 2009 2:29AM

Well, it does look like it has a very well defined strike.

On a tangent: A thought came to me. We have so many Guess The Grade threads. How about building a TPG on the basis of those threads?
The Balanced User Grading Service. BUGS.
Submit a coin. It gets posted to a gtg thread. Grade gets set.
A simple, turnkey business which I will gladly sell to anyone who is interested.

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Steviewah · November 17, 2009 2:31AM

Genuine: Environmental Damage

Billet7 · November 17, 2009 2:34AM

Then it is a gennie or a 58. Im not really seeing the wear.

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robec · November 17, 2009 2:34AM

PF64 RB

dsessom · November 17, 2009 2:40AM

<< Hint:
The coin is not MS... it is __ >>

That did cross my mind. OK then, PF65RB

ponderit · November 17, 2009 2:48AM

PR 64...

Bear · November 17, 2009 2:53AM

AU-58 RB

BaseballAbs · November 17, 2009 2:54AM

There are two nice hits on the coin because of the hits i would give it a MS64 RB

soty27 · November 17, 2009 2:56AM

Genuine ?? where in the world would you get that? AU58 ?? really?

Its a proof and severely undergraded at that.

JedPlanchet · November 17, 2009 2:59AM

Nice color, regardless of the grade

crazyhounddog · November 17, 2009 3:02AM

I'll say PR-64 brn....Joe
And by the way I think this coin is just BEAUTIFUL regardless what the grade is!!

robec · November 17, 2009 3:20AM

Here are a couple of 1913 MPL's for comparison. Both are BN. The first is PF65 and the second is PF66. The ear and beard in Chris's 1913 both lack enough detail, IMHO to be graded higher than the 63-64 range. Regardless of grade it is a dynamite Lincoln.

darktone · November 17, 2009 3:25AM

proof62 brown

soty27 · November 17, 2009 3:31AM

Bob,

I couldn't agree with you more. I was honestly waiting for you to pop into the thread and give me your thoughts. I thought the coin was a lock 63, shot 64. The coin currently resides in a PCGS PR62RB holder, I can't for the life of me understand why the coin is only in a 62 holder.

Edit, on another note these mpl lincolns are EXTREMLY hard to find problem free and when you do find them the price guides go right out the window. I only found a couple at baltimore that I liked enough to take a closer look at although I ran out of time. Charmy owns both MPL lincolns I would like to get a chance to look at closer.

Bob that green MPL lincoln of yours is a stunner and I have never seen one that even compares.

MikeInFL · November 17, 2009 3:34AM

PF 64 BN

MikeInFL · November 17, 2009 3:36AM

<< I couldn't agree with you more. I was honestly waiting for you to pop into the thread and give me your thoughts. I thought the coin was a lock 63, shot 64. The coin currently resides in a PCGS PR62RB holder, I can't for the life of me understand why the coin is only in a 62 holder. >>

Now reading the thread, neither can I.

I wonder what PCGS saw that we didn't -- perhaps a small rim dent not visible in the slab?

pmac · November 17, 2009 3:43AM

Although I got into this thread late, I was guessing a proof early on. Learning on this forum, the rims are squarely cut which is an indication of proof Lincolns. Now I expect other experts to tell me that this inidcation is all wrong, (just let me be a little precocious).

soty27 · November 17, 2009 3:45AM

<< 

<< I couldn't agree with you more. I was honestly waiting for you to pop into the thread and give me your thoughts. I thought the coin was a lock 63, shot 64. The coin currently resides in a PCGS PR62RB holder, I can't for the life of me understand why the coin is only in a 62 holder. >>

Now reading the thread, neither can I.

I wonder what PCGS saw that we didn't -- perhaps a small rim dent not visible in the slab? >>

Mike,
This is kinda why I posted the coin here. I just cant see why its a PR62-- I thought very minimum a 63. I will send it over to them again and see if it will come back at least a three.

robec · November 17, 2009 4:00AM

Although not wholly evident in the image, I'll bet the coin just shines. You can see it around the rims and Lincoln's bust, but it's so hard to capture on the whole coin. I don't know what they are looking for, but looks minimum 63 to me.

MorganChicken · November 17, 2009 5:06AM

65 RB. The reverse looks 66. Great looking coin.

LeeBone · November 17, 2009 5:08AM

<< MS-64 RB. >>

CoinJunkie · November 17, 2009 5:28AM

Very nice coin. I imagine that the multiple hits on the cheek knocked the grade down, but 62 seems a tad harsh.

lusterlover · November 17, 2009 5:36AM

For the record, I knew it was a PF before your hint. The '13 has distinguishing die polish lines swirling around the E & T on the reverse. Having said that, this has to be the nicest 62 I've ever seen. Even with the hits/nicks on the obverse, it's a 63 at worst. Nice pickup. Also, welcome to the world of mattes. You have come to quickly realize nice examples are scarce and command premiums

Billet7 · November 18, 2009 1:44AM

I don't really mess around with proofs, I just didn't think it looked like one.

AngryTurtle · November 18, 2009 2:30AM

Before the "its not a MS" hint I was going to guess MS63B, I would say PR63B

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