Thoughts on ANACS grading

clackamas · November 11, 2009 2:20PM

What are your opinions on ANACS now vs. a few years ago?

DennisH · November 11, 2009 2:29PM

I'm still not a fan of how they grade Morgans.

relicsncoins · November 11, 2009 2:31PM

I'm not sure, there have been 3 or 4 new days since I last sent a coin to them, and that was only a couple of years ago.

SamByrd · November 11, 2009 2:37PM

current ANACS has very little credibility it is not consistent at all. The market has also spoken on recent ANACS slabs as well, the Taylor era was real bad for ANACS the ICG treatment of a once great grading company was a train wreck. I have not used ANACS since the advent of the toy holders they started to use a few years back. ANACS does not represent value any longer PCI/ICG/ANACS are the way lower tier 3erd party grader now.
PCGS is the most consistent and the market also agrees. I have a lot of the old ANACS holders but also PCI as well they both were very good until they were acquired and wrecked by there new respective owners.

The PCGS Genuine holder will make it nearly impossible for ANACS to regain its former place in the market though there is need for more TPG's
NGC is said to be offering net grades for problem coins as well - I don't know if that is accurate but if it is ANACS is pretty much not relevant any longer in my opinion.

Bochiman · November 11, 2009 2:46PM

I sent a couple of silver roosevelts in about 2 years ago. Even then, I think they were on a decline. Wasn't impressed (2 coins from an original unc roll and 1 got MS66 and the other AU58).
Nowadays, I wouldn't even waste anything on using them.

golfer72 · November 12, 2009 9:23AM

ANACS is fine . I have several coins in their newer holders and they are graded correctly. The slab itself is not very good though.

CEOGBOSE · November 12, 2009 9:35AM

Personally and unfortunately I don't think it matters with PCGS and NGC having a lock on 1-2 anything else is just a holder IMHO. I'm not saying ANACS grading is bad however we all know if you want maximum return on your investment if it's not in a PCGS or NGC holder it won't fetch the maximum premium. I don't like it but it is what it is.

123cents · November 12, 2009 9:38AM

Excellent coins to crossover to PCGS if your grading skills are up to par.

ModernDollarNut · November 12, 2009 9:52AM

ANACS grading of Ikes these days is closer to my expectations than was the case several years ago.

All grading is judgmental, there are no absolute standards, especially as to the proper weighting of the many separate factors that contribute to a coin's eye appeal or lack of it.

No disrespect, but ANACS's Ike grading is presently more consistent than PCGS's IMHO.

ANACS also is on the cutting edge of Ike Varieties, even though this entails some risk of getting caught in descriptors that will inevitably change with time and better understanding of underlying mechanisms in a Series as young as Ikes. Rob

Halfhunter06 · November 12, 2009 10:02AM

The guys at ANACS know what they are doing. Just as good as NGC or PCGS

pitboss · November 12, 2009 11:27AM

I have sent coins to all three and ANACS grades just as well as PCGS and NGC. The marketplace gives PCGS and NGC a leg up on coins but I don't agree.

boucharda · November 12, 2009 9:26PM

<< I have sent coins to all three and ANACS grades just as well as PCGS and NGC. The marketplace gives PCGS and NGC a leg up on coins but I don't agree. >>

BUFFNIXX · November 12, 2009 9:40PM

There is no real reason to use anacs anymore. Nothing to distiguish them. Going into the gruesome details of what Taylor did to the old anacs as well as the present ICG is ancient history. Their toy slabs belong in the lower tier. I miss the small compact holders. Maybe someone will resurect these someday. Current anacs slab with the pumpkin colored insert is an atrocity. buffnixx

boucharda · November 12, 2009 10:01PM

<< There is no real reason to use anacs anymore. Nothing to distiguish them. Going into the gruesome details of what Taylor did to the old anacs as well as the present ICG is ancient history. Their toy slabs belong in the lower tier. I miss the small compact holders. Maybe someone will resurect these someday. Current anacs slab with the pumpkin colored insert is an atrocity. buffnixx >>

Maybe you are correct.....these do look MUCH better:

A Looker

291fifth · November 12, 2009 10:06PM

I no longer even consider using them.

TorinoCobra71 · November 12, 2009 10:20PM

<< The guys at ANACS know what they are doing. Just as good as NGC or PCGS >>

I recently sent in some Morgans to them and they graded about what I hoped. right on or within a point!

BUFFNIXX · November 12, 2009 10:29PM

But, your morgan dollars, especially morgans, would have been better off in pcgs or ngc holders -- buffiixx

ttown · November 12, 2009 10:41PM

The present holders after the change are graded very tough and there's some PQ coins in them. It reminds me of the early ANACS holders, hope they hold the line.

PTVETTER · November 12, 2009 11:38PM

The old saying buy the coin not the holder is now and will always be the best advice!

Now as far a grading companys, PCGS and NGC are more market acceptable. That being said I believe there are many nice coin in other holders, but you have to know how to grade properly AND guess on how the top 2 are thinking at the time if you plan on crossing them over.

If your not looking at coins in other holders you are missing out on some fine coins. Now that's OK I or someone else will pick them up and enjoy the bargin.

crazyhounddog · November 12, 2009 11:40PM

<< The guys at ANACS know what they are doing. Just as good as NGC or PCGS >>

PerryHall · November 13, 2009 12:39AM

If I see a nice coin in an ANACS or ICG holder and it's not overpriced, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

koynekwest · November 13, 2009 12:41AM

I won't use 'em. In my experience they went downhill quickly in the last few years. They are not the REAL ANACS anymore-ICG is.

HighRelief · November 13, 2009 12:53AM

<< I'm still not a fan of how they grade Morgans. >>

I sent this 87-S/S UDM to PCGS for crossover and it came back "Altered Surfaces" This was my first big lesson not to buy Anacs graded coins anymore.

lkeigwin · November 13, 2009 4:02AM

My ANACS and PCI crossovers (to PCGS) have always been very successful. Less so with NGC-to-PCGS. Hmm.

I don't hesitate to buy a nice coin in an ANACS holder, new or old. I try to stay focused on the coin.
Lance.

Barry · November 13, 2009 4:18AM

Since management changed, I have no respect for ANACS. I had no problems with coins in small ANACS holders from days of yore.

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Wolf359 · November 13, 2009 4:26AM

<< 

<< I'm still not a fan of how they grade Morgans. >>

I sent this 87-S/S UDM to PCGS for crossover and it came back "Altered Surfaces" This was my first big lesson not to buy Anacs graded coins anymore.

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Worth trying again I'd say. And there's always NGC.

19Lyds · November 13, 2009 5:09AM

I definitely think that ANACS has tightened up their grading policies and would consider any recently graded coin to be correctly graded.

mike92694 · November 13, 2009 5:13AM

<< 

<< I'm still not a fan of how they grade Morgans. >>

I sent this 87-S/S UDM to PCGS for crossover and it came back "Altered Surfaces" This was my first big lesson not to buy Anacs graded coins anymore.
>>

How big of a lesson is it, and are you willing to try again?

I have had an 1820 Large Cent and an 1839 Large Cent, both NGC, rejected first time by PCGS as questionable color. They both graded the second time by PCGS, albeit one grade lower each.

leothelyon · November 13, 2009 7:37AM

<< If I see a nice coin in an ANACS or ICG holder and it's not overpriced, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. >>

Obviously a huge difference over what the CAC can do for sight-unseen buyers!

Leo

FullStepJeffs · November 13, 2009 7:47AM

I use them for all my minor RPMs, DDOs, DDRs that aren't CPG. My goal is to get at least one of each graded.

I think they accurately grade and most of all designate what I want clarification on... and the prices realized tend to show the grading capabilities work.

Steve

golfer72 · November 13, 2009 8:41AM

I love all these people that completely discount ANACS. Makes the coins I find in their slabs that much cheaper. Keep it up.

19Lyds · November 13, 2009 9:16AM

<< I love all these people that completely discount ANACS. Makes the coins I find in their slabs that much cheaper. Keep it up. >>

Excellent point!

ksteelheader · November 13, 2009 9:21AM

<< Anything other than pcgs and ngc is just clear plastic, might as wells just stick in a flip and call it a day imho. >>

Ditto!

BECOKA · November 13, 2009 9:26AM

Grading on circulated classic gold seems fine and closer to PCGS than NGC in that respect. I don't have not checked any other series recently so that's all I can comment on.

Tyrock · November 15, 2009 1:32AM

I used Anacs for years, but I won't go near them now. I think that the company started losing credibility after Taylor took over. Now I strictly use PCGS although I have several coins in the old white holders which I will hold onto.

Moldnut · November 15, 2009 2:25AM

I had good luck when crossing this one. It first went to NGC and came back cleaned so I sent it to PCGS.

coinkat · November 15, 2009 2:27AM

If you really enjoys coins, looking at the coins regardless of plastic makes sense. As for submitting coins to ANACs today, I would likely not do so unless it is a variety not recognized by PCGS or NGC

mudskippie · November 15, 2009 2:38AM

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<< There is no real reason to use anacs anymore. Nothing to distiguish them. Going into the gruesome details of what Taylor did to the old anacs as well as the present ICG is ancient history. Their toy slabs belong in the lower tier. I miss the small compact holders. Maybe someone will resurect these someday. Current anacs slab with the pumpkin colored insert is an atrocity. buffnixx >>

Maybe you are correct.....these do look MUCH better:

A Looker >>

OMG! That PCGS slab is premature! By the way, love the classic anacs slab

MICHAELDIXON · November 15, 2009 6:42AM

Momma said: "If you don't have anything good to say about somebody, keep your mouth shut!" I ain't sayin' nothin'.

Cameonut · November 15, 2009 6:52AM

<< Momma said: "If you don't have anything good to say about somebody, keep your mouth shut!" I ain't sayin' nothin'. >>

Good idea - I ain't sayin' nothin' either.

BECOKA · November 15, 2009 7:15AM

<< 

<< 

<< There is no real reason to use anacs anymore. Nothing to distiguish them. Going into the gruesome details of what Taylor did to the old anacs as well as the present ICG is ancient history. Their toy slabs belong in the lower tier. I miss the small compact holders. Maybe someone will resurect these someday. Current anacs slab with the pumpkin colored insert is an atrocity. buffnixx >>

Maybe you are correct.....these do look MUCH better:

A Looker >>

OMG! That PCGS slab is premature! By the way, love the classic anacs slab

>>

Somehow I don't think that Obama PCGS slab is authorized by PCGS, I'm betting its an aftermarket sticker.

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