1894-S Barber Dime??????????????

bigtonydallas · November 14, 2009 3:23AM

I know this a very very low grade coin and is probably not it but what other die markers would this coin have? I have tried to scan the vital areas but it is pretty bad. Bought the coin for buck. If it is I should get the cherry pick of the year award! lol

What do you all think?

first pic is of 18 of date
second is 94 of date
third is 10X view of mintmark area
fourth if 30x view of minmtmark area

Is there something that will bring back the details like nic-a-date but for silver?

ziggy29 · November 14, 2009 3:24AM

linky no worky.

LanLord · November 14, 2009 3:29AM

I believe that is a 1904 rather than a 1894, whether there is or is not an "S" mintmark I could not determine.

mr1931S · November 14, 2009 3:40AM

links don't work

MorganChicken · November 14, 2009 3:42AM

I really cannot tell from the pics. Looks more like a 1904. You as the owner can probably tell better than the pics.

Smittys · November 14, 2009 3:49AM

A Dollar and A Dream ...... and a Vivid imagination

bigtonydallas · November 14, 2009 4:11AM

I know I have a vivid imagination but it is worth investigating since half are unaccounted for!!!!!!!!!! Maybe the director's daughter bought more than and ice cream cone!!!! lol

jmski52 · November 14, 2009 4:11AM

Is there something like Nic-A-Date for 90% silver coins?

bigtonydallas · November 14, 2009 4:13AM

I have tried to thin nic-a-date down with water and it only creates pools of nic-a-date in the water. I was going to try vinegar and see if I can create a nic-a-date light! What do you all think?

Walkerguy21D · November 14, 2009 4:18AM

Are there any known (and certified) circulated 94-S dimes in existence? I know an old dealer in his 80's that claims he has one in VG that he bought back in the early 60's; it's in his personal set, so it's NSF, he swears it's authentic, etc. I'm a little skeptical, but of course many strange and unusual things happen in this hobby of ours, so who knows?

RWB · November 14, 2009 4:26AM

There are several inventories of these things on the web and in publications. Kevin Flynn’s book on the 1894-S dimes is an excellent source.

The ice cream story and others appear to be mostly apocryphal.

If you compare your coin with a 1904 dime, I think you will find that the central openings on the “90” are identical with your coin. Date "restorer" does not work on silver coins.

SilverEagles92 · November 14, 2009 4:30AM

<< <i>I have tried to thin nic-a-date down with water and it only creates pools of nic-a-date in the water. I was going to try vinegar and see if I can create a nic-a-date light! What do you all think? >>

Nic-A-Date only works on nickels.

MFH · November 14, 2009 4:41AM

<< <i>Are there any known (and certified) circulated 94-S dimes in existence? I know an old dealer in his 80's that claims he has one in VG that he bought back in the early 60's; it's in his personal set, so it's NSF, he swears it's authentic, etc. I'm a little skeptical, but of course many strange and unusual things happen in this hobby of ours, so who knows? >>

I know that there are two circulated coins - both either AG 3 or G 4 ... one of which was the "Ice Cream" Dime spent in 1894 by Hallie Daggett.
Thank the good Lord, she kept the other couple of dimes her father gave her.

With a mintage of " 24 " and a known population of eleven - one wonders where the other dozen or so are located.

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BTW - the links don't work...

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OregonCityGold · November 14, 2009 7:05AM

Yes, it clearly is an 1894-s. No question about it. It's only worth about $100,000 in that grade, but it's still a decent find.

sinin1 · November 14, 2009 7:11AM

first 2 numbers are 19

pheh · November 14, 2009 7:18AM

1904

RWB · November 14, 2009 8:48AM

"first 2 numbers are 19 "

OK...must be a "1994-S" Barber dime. Very rare indeed. Only thing rarer is a "1994-S VDB" dime or a unicorn playing the French horn.

WinPitcher · November 14, 2009 9:04AM

Why all the question marks and exclamations?

Steve

RWB · November 14, 2009 9:38AM

Maybe his computer came with the special Mircosoft Bonus Question Mark and Exclamation Point Service Pack. This gives you lots of these so that you can type really emphatic sentences.

(I got the deluxe “Footnote Extension Pack” for writing research articles.)

Rampage · November 14, 2009 9:41AM

100% 1904.

MFH · November 14, 2009 10:08AM

<< <i>100% 1904. >>

Thanks for getting the links to work...

sorry its not a long lost 94-S...

bigtonydallas · November 15, 2009 11:40PM

Well at just over silver melt I did not loose anything.

I added the question marks as I am sure this a 1904 but I am still going to find a 1894 and 1904 to compare with.

I know silver is softer than nickle but shouldn't there be an acid that could bring back the details of silver coins?

MFH · November 16, 2009 12:59AM

Maybe this will help...

The 1894 Dime is from San Francisco - [ not mine. ] The 1904-P Dime is mine...

bigtonydallas · November 16, 2009 3:17AM

well from my second pic, the top of the loop looks like it is small like a 9 not wide like a zero. any close up pics?

RWB · November 16, 2009 3:22AM

Also, compare the distance between the top of the 4 and the bust on both coins. Your photos match the 1904.

fastrudy · November 16, 2009 3:43AM

They made two acid solutions for etching coins when I was a mere child (during the Jurrasic Era). One (CoinDate) would work on Buffalo Nickels, and the other (CoinDate for Silver) etched silver coins. I used the second one to etch the dates on worn Mercury Dimes and Standing Liberty Quarters. I think it was a 50% solution of Nitric Acid and distilled water, but I am not sure. If you put a drop on a coin, the liquid turned a brown/purple color, and after a minute, you would rinse it off with water. You could then make out the date of the coin. Of course, this totally ruined the value of the coin, but I was young and foolish. One day, I did about 50 coins at one time, and got that brown liquid on my hands. I didn't think anything of it, and I washed my hands after the batch was finished. The next day, I woke up and both my hands were....DEEP PURPLE!! Soap, scrubbing, bleach and alcohol would not remove the huge stains on my hands!! I went to a doctor who advised me not to do this again, and told me that the discoloration will come off in about a week (comes off with skin).

BTW, I think it is a 1904-S. Don't mess with Nitric Acid unless you have a fume hood, acid proof gloves and safety goggles.

mr1931S · November 16, 2009 5:15AM

1901 was a design transition year for Barber coins.The dimes made prior to 1901 will all be Type 1,after 1901 are Type 2.The difference between Type 1 and Type 2 is seen in the leaf that points to the "S" in "STATES." Also,there is a difference that can be seen on the reverse in the right ribbon below the bow.

For extremely worn coins,the difference in the ribbon bow might be impossible to discern.The obverse difference in the leaf may or may not be of use when examining extremely worn Barber dimes.The leaf that points toward the "S" is more distant for Type 1,1892-1900.The leaves are more pointed for Type 2,1901-1916.

One difference easily seen in the pics of 1904 and 1894 that have been provided in this thread is the "1" position in the date.Note the difference in where the "1" points relative to the "B" on the bust.

See David Lawrence's guide for more information.

bigtonydallas · November 16, 2009 6:03AM

The leaf pointing to the S in states proves this is a 1904. I am going to try the solution on the mint mark to see if I can bring up the detail.

Thanks you'all!!!

1894-S Barber Dime??????????????

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