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How do you think this Buffalo graded at PCGS? *Grade Revealed*

ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
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How do you think this Buffalo graded at PCGS? Hint, it is a mint state coin.

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There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
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  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭
    I'd grade it a 64, but given the tone of your post...I'll say PCGS gave it a 63.
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Muted luster, cleaned?

    Genuine.

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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    It is not Genuine. Not damaged. It's an MS coin.
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64

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  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    MS 60
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    64
  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is hardly a mark on it. I'm saying MS66! image
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  • tresgatostresgatos Posts: 531 ✭
    I think all those hits on the shoulder of the bison will result in MS-63.
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  • CEOGBOSECEOGBOSE Posts: 377
    MS-62

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS probably graded it a ms-63 the braid on the obverse is weakly struck......Joe
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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
    63
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  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    I agree with MS63.

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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    I agree with 62. image
  • capecape Posts: 1,621 ✭
    no more than a 63
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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    I grade it 63. Lots of hits on the Bison and a weak strike. What they graded it, who knows.
  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    64
    Don

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  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭
    Well, lets just say I know where this one is from - and I HIGHLY disagree with the grade given.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    63
    due to strike

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  • MorganChickenMorganChicken Posts: 221
    62. not the best strike on the buffs head and some big contact marks on rev
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  • AthenaAthena Posts: 439 ✭✭✭
    What grade should it get? How about MS-63. What grade did it get? Probably a misguided MS-65. image
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    Grade Revealed: MS-66
    Link
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    and I just heard a pin drop image

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Grade Revealed: MS-66
    Link >>



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  • JaPaJaPa Posts: 121
    What was the grader smoking that day?
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does David agree with the grade?
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  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, if that got a 66 I had better bust out my Whitman folder of Buffalos for some 66`s of my own. image
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63 beacause of the ticks on the bison,
    but MS64 would not be a stretch --
    it has to be one of the other --
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After making my first post saying that it was a 64 or 63 I see that PCGS awarded this a 66.??
    This coin is OBVIOUSLY overgraded.
    What does this prove?
    Even pcgs has a bad day.
    Learn to grade yourself!!

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess was 63. When I scrolled down and saw the PCGS grade is 66, I decided either they or I are nuts.
    This time I think they are.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My guess was 63. When I scrolled down and saw the PCGS grade is 66, I decided either they or I are nuts.
    This time I think they are. >>



    After looking at my pcgs ms-64 I have got to say the coin graded ms-66 Is a better strike, but the hits on the 66 is distracting enough to hold it back ,IMO.
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  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    Any chance that luster compensates for strike issues? Just sayin'....
  • OneCentOneCent Posts: 3,561 ✭


    << <i>Any chance that luster compensates for strike issues? Just sayin'.... >>






    I was thinking the same thing, but even if the luster is booming (which the image doesn't show), I could still not imagine the coin going higher than a 64 do to the hits on the buffalo. Just my thoughts...
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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    I looked as close as I could at the Image the Obverse looks like Many 35's they are weak quite often mine is not much better.

    I would say MS64. I wonder is this an error perhaps? it is not easy to stretch the reverse ticks and the weakness though common on a 35 to MS66.

    I hope some experts would chime in on this.
  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Grade Revealed: MS-66
    Link >>



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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For what it's worth

    1) David Hall's pic's in general aren't that great
    2) No matter what, you can't grade with certainty off of pics
    3) The holder does appear to have some scratches
    4) Can HRH ask for a presidential review and/or use the guarentee? image

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Grade Revealed: MS-66
    Link >>



    not good at all,

    very dissappointing, even when we only have a picture to look at.
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  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭
    Yeah, this one has been listed on his site for sale for months now. It hasn't sold for obvious reasons...
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  • MPLunaticMPLunatic Posts: 617 ✭✭
    I think Im gonna have david hall submit my coins for me
  • buffalohunterbuffalohunter Posts: 364
    are you going to send it in for a REGRADE ! MAYBE 67 SHOT ?
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Like to see the Kool-Aid drinkers defend that POS... PCGS always more conservative mah butt.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At this point I am posting after the grade of MS66 has been disclosed. My initial impression was MS64, but at MS66 I would imagine this coin must have significant flash and luster in-hand.
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  • InternetJunkyInternetJunky Posts: 2,329 ✭


    << <i>At this point I am posting after the grade of MS66 has been disclosed. My initial impression was MS64, but at MS66 I would imagine this coin must have significant flash and luster in-hand. >>



    By this statement your saying that a buffalo nickel can jump two grades based on luster. This would mean that a 65 buffalo could potentially be a 67, which I can't see as being plausible.

    I'm not trying to bash you or anything, but I think PCGS was just snoozin' on this one. It happens - nobodies perfect.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Overgraded for sure. Unless the scratches on the shoulder are on the holder and not the coin. No amount of luster should ratchet a grade from 63-64 to 66. Buy the coin not the holder..


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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>By this statement your saying that a buffalo nickel can jump two grades based on luster. This would mean that a 65 buffalo could potentially be a 67, which I can't see as being plausible. >>

    I didn't read that into it -- just that PCGS must have seen something that isn't evident to us from the image. He didn't indicate that booming luster would make 66 the right grade, but just that maybe knock-your-socks-off luster might make the grade higher than the image would seem to suggest.

    Having said that, based on the image I might have said strong 63/weak 64.
  • Marauderrt10Marauderrt10 Posts: 1,097 ✭
    WOW! if that got a 66 then my MS68 should be a MS70!!!
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First, it is a 1935-S- The strike is about as good as they come for the date. Some flash would be nice for a 66- and that could be there and just not captured n the image

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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    Any other opinions?
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    MS66? No way.
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