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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    So the buyer, blameitonthealcohol and the seller kmjsportingkings2009 are the same person, blame buys and kmj sells. If they don't bid on each other's auctions then ebay probably doesn't care, right?
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  • It's too bad stuff like this happens. Sellers are ruining nice cards. You would think these would the sellers would be smart enough to stay away from serial #'d cards, as they are easy to track.
  • All the originals were bought on Ebay.co.uk right? Is that how this guy is circumventing the system?
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭



    Buys Legit Items:

    blameitonthealcohol ( 805) 1 year 4 months NC,United States



    Sells Improved Items:

    kmjsportingkings2009 ( 113) 1 month NC, United States



    Claims:

    Item location: MIDWEST USA, United States

    "Serving the world from the great old Midwest!!"


    //////////////////////////////////////


    Giving an incorrect item location is a TOS violation.

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    The guy needs to be in handcuffs.

    Fraud can be reported to:


    www.ic3.gov


    "Manufacturing and selling sports memorabilia forgeries."

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • FWIW- blameitonthealcohol is Kevin Burge
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  • but where are the sticker auto's? and how are they being pealed off??? - oh wait that was another scam!

    Nice proof and good job outing this scammer.
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  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>FWIW- blameitonthealcohol is Kevin Burge >>



    Man oh man, this is one busy fraudster...
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    doesn't this board out this scammer on an almost daily basis? and, does anyone have any kryptonite?
  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    I hope he is living on borrowed time and moves on to selling used cars.
    Currently completing the following registry sets: Cardinal HOF's, 1961 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1972 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, 1980 Pittsburgh Pirates Team, Bill Mazeroski Master & Basic Sets, Roberto Clemente Master & Basic Sets, Willie Stargell Master & Basic Sets and Terry Bradshaw Basic Set
  • corvette1340corvette1340 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope he is living on borrowed time and moves on to selling used cars. >>



    nah, he would become rich and good looking if he did that. image
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    Using Alternative Methods To Turn Up The Heat On Fraudsters


    Because some LEOs are too busy to pursue white-collar CRIMINALS,
    there are collateral attacks that can be made.

    Many such CRIMINALS are engaged in "entitlement fraud" against
    various government entities. CRIMINALS suspected of wrongfully -
    fraudulently - receiving government benefits can be reported to
    the relevant benefit agencies.

    CRIMINALS believed to be in violation of taxing codes can be
    reported to the sundry revenue agencies.

    CRIMINALS that are endangering their children can be reported to
    state and county child protective agencies. Children living in homes
    from which CRIMINAL enterprises are conducted are considered
    "at risk" in most jurisdictions.

    CRIMINALS suspected of drunk-driving - or using/selling illegal drugs -
    can be reported to the LEOs in the CRIMINALS' locale.

    Even building-code violations that are known/suspected to have been
    committed by the CRIMINALS can be reported to enforcement authorities.

    ANY potential licensing violations believed to have been perpetrated
    by the CRIMINALS can be reported to the relevant agencies.

    While it is ideal to prosecute/punish such CRIMINALS for the CRIMES that
    are most damaging to consumers, when that is not possible it is often
    effective to employ alternate methods.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I'm getting sick of hearing about this guy.

    Good job in exposing him, yet again.

    Maybe one day he will rip off the wrong person and get a hand to the face.


    Steve


    Good for you.
  • It is amazing that ebay allows this to go on. You know people are giving them plenty of evidence. Maybe someone should go after ebay for not doing their part to protect buyers.
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...Maybe someone should go after ebay for not doing their part to protect buyers..."

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    It is expensive/time-consuming/labor-intensive to fight with EBAY.

    Other than getting a few crooks tossed off of EBAY,
    I don't see how the prospective "someone" benefits
    from going after EBAY on such issues.
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    There is a very strong case to be made that eBay sellers are subject to jurisdiction in Santa Clara County, California (eBay's headquarters). California has a very useful unfair business practices statute if you're a competitor of a business that's violating laws.

    Are there any attorneys here in the San Francisco Bay area? So far, the closest I know of is larryallen, and he's in Sacramento.

    Nick
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  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"...Maybe someone should go after ebay for not doing their part to protect buyers..."

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    It is expensive/time-consuming/labor-intensive to fight with EBAY.

    Other than getting a few crooks tossed off of EBAY,
    I don't see how the prospective "someone" benefits
    from going after EBAY on such issues. >>




    It would be nice if someone had a TV station connection and could get them to run one of those investigation pieces on these clowns


  • << <i>So the buyer, blameitonthealcohol and the seller kmjsportingkings2009 are the same person, blame buys and kmj sells. If they don't bid on each other's auctions then ebay probably doesn't care, right? >>

    Even when they do, ebay seems now to care even less.
    I have reported examples like this(faking patches), even with the buying Id also shilling the auctions.
    Looking for in PSA graded
    1. 75-76 Topps Keith/Jamaal Wilkes in Psa 8+
    2. 1971-72 Trio stickers PSA 8+
    3. BSKB 1977-78 topps psa 10

    Basketball Autos
    1992 Courtside Flashback
    Action Packed HOF Autos(need elvin hayes,both bill bradley,and the 1st bill walton)
    2001 and 2005 Greats of the Game
    UD=retro,epic,legends,legendary,generations and chronology
    2006 Topps Style 1952 Fan Favorites Autos #/10 (Refractor Autos)
    Press Pass Legends


  • << <i> It would be nice if someone had a TV station connection and could get them to run one of those investigation pieces on these clowns >>



    One of my local station does a "Eye on your side" as does some other stations I've seen. Residents report local problems,scams etc. Would be great if they did it and their parent station or affiliates ? picked it up.

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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...There is a very strong case to be made that eBay sellers are subject to jurisdiction in Santa Clara County, California (eBay's headquarters)...."

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    I don't disagree that such a case can be argued.

    In general, it is imprudent to face EBAY in Santa Clara,
    or anywhere else in CA.

    Most states now offer good unfair-biznez possibilities;
    most are similar to those in CA.

    Filing against a crooked seller/buyer in his home state - and
    naming EBAY/PayPal - is the most economical route. EBAY will
    always try to move the action to CA, but can easily end up in
    Federal Court.

    EBAY - and the crooks they shelter/enable - are most vulnerable
    to the successful resting of Federal Civil-RICO claims inside of a
    complaint alleging Unfair Business Practices.

    A mere claim that a defendant "would meet the defined criteria of a
    RICO-Enterprise" is often able to withstand a motion for summary
    judgement in Federal Court; at least long enough to use a limited
    discovery order to force a settlement.

    State courts hearing Civil-RICO pitches - usually, not always - want
    a little more meat on the RICO-bone at the inception of the action.
    Often, the court, on its own action, will declare such cases "complex
    litigation" and appoint a special master; this further hinders a plaintiff's
    ability to force crooks to fold AND adds lots of time/money to the effort.

    Fighting with big corps is NEVER about "winning at trial." It is ALWAYS
    about getting them to write you a big check as quickly as possible.

    ..........

    A young lawyer could make a lot of money fighting with EBAY/PayPal,
    but it would be a fulltime job and his clients would not benefit much
    from a financial standpoint.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • schr1stschr1st Posts: 1,677 ✭✭
    Or Mr. O'Keefe and the Daily News.



    << <i>

    << <i>"...Maybe someone should go after ebay for not doing their part to protect buyers..."

    /////////////////////////

    It is expensive/time-consuming/labor-intensive to fight with EBAY.

    Other than getting a few crooks tossed off of EBAY,
    I don't see how the prospective "someone" benefits
    from going after EBAY on such issues. >>




    It would be nice if someone had a TV station connection and could get them to run one of those investigation pieces on these clowns >>

    Who is Rober Maris?
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    storm - you don't have to name eBay to go after the seller.

    Nick
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    << <i>storm - you don't have to name eBay to go after the seller.

    Nick >>



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    Of course not.

    Tho, I would; chasing little guys in court is just no fun.

    And, in my view, if the goal is to get a specific card seller
    off of EBAY, suing that seller alone is potentially useless.
    Merely naming EBAY would get that job done FAST.
    (Under the bus he goes forever. Case settled.)

    .......

    If the goal of a CA filing is just to vex the bad seller by
    forcing him to do a little traveling, it may or may not work.
    There are lots of ways to defeat the notion that the CA
    court has jurisdiction.

    When angry folks have tried similar moves on me, I have either
    been able to move the matters to Federal court OR convinced
    the plaintiffs that I would be successful in doing so.

    Additionally, I have often filed against residency-diverse defendants
    in my own Federal districts. Often, showing of a "sometime physical
    presence" has been all that was needed to turn the bums into very
    frequent flyers. "Frequent physical presence" of a non-district resident,
    almost guarantees your opponent will be catching planes.

    Fed courts are often much easier for little guys to operate in. The rules
    are strict and evenly enforced; MANY hot shot state-court guys become
    clueless in such venues.

    The current PEP/Aquafina debacle illustrates that many Fed judges don't
    wanna hear "it's just a technicality." I have had numerous "excusable
    neglect" arguments - that would have flown in ANY state court - tossed
    into the trash in Fed courts. (And, in general, it does not matter that the
    big guys are rich/famous. I find the Feds a much better audience for my
    stuff; I never feel cheated like I do in some state courts where the good
    ole boys are all mobbed up with the judges.)

    Dragging the corps into Fed courts is the most powerful weapon that the
    little guys have.

    ............
    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    storm - Burge isn't that little. IMO he's a pretty nice size - big enough to have assets to pay a judgment, but not so big that he can readily pay someone a $10K retainer (minimum) and continue to pay legal fees without it hurting him a lot.

    California also has specific statutes with attorney's fees and penalty damages for selling altered sports cards generally and for selling false autographed sports memorabilia. Suing in California is the best way to get these statutes applied (not saying it's not possible in other states).

    Kicking him off eBay accomplishes little - he will be right back with another ID under some name he controls. It's seizing his inventory and equipment (and other assets) that will destroy him.

    Moving the case from state to federal court doesn't accomplish much for him, and there really aren't many ways to defeat jurisdiction in CA courts when he does so much business purposefully directed through a California venue.

    Nick



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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭

    CA Unfair Competition Law17200

    Legislative Intent

    .......The unfair competition law is not confined to anticompetitive business practices,
    but is equally directed toward the right of the public to protection from fraud and deceit.
    Furthermore, the proscription of “unfair competition” is not restricted to deceptive or
    fraudulent conduct but extends to any unlawful business practice. The Legislature
    apparently intended to permit courts to enjoin ongoing wrongful business conduct in
    whatever context such activity might occur. ........


    Any consumer, whether a customer/victim OR not, could bring/maintain a claim.

    Unfair Competition Law 17200...Heavy Reading


    ////////////////////////////////////


    CLRA - light reading


    It is a bit on the moonbeam side for my taste, but might
    be likely effective against MANY of the EBAY crooks..... IF
    the CA-nexus is actually easy to establish; I agree
    it appears to be.

    The opportunity to remedy the violations seem to heavily
    favor the crooks.

    It may be worth trying, if for no other reason than to put the guy
    on notice that he is under intense scrutiny.

    I disagree that the guy likely has substantial assets.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    Just an FYI, the Mannighams are two DIFFERENT cards. One is the Gold verision and the other the Silver version although they have the same serial number. I doubt he's changing the foil embossing, too...


  • << <i>Just an FYI, the Mannighams are two DIFFERENT cards. One is the Gold verision and the other the Silver version although they have the same serial number. I doubt he's changing the foil embossing, too... >>



    ok Correction. They are the same card. The Rookie Signatures/Patch Cards - # to 199 or less does not have a Gold/Silver parallel. Other cards have alt versions but not this one.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>Just an FYI, the Mannighams are two DIFFERENT cards. One is the Gold verision and the other the Silver version although they have the same serial number. I doubt he's changing the foil embossing, too... >>



    ok Correction. They are the same card. The Rookie Signatures/Patch Cards - # to 199 or less does not have a Gold/Silver parallel. Other cards have alt versions but not this one. >>




    How come the foil is a different color on the 2 cards? Is it the scan?
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