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RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is an idea that I have bandied about for a while and recently discussed it with James Garcia (EarlyUS.com and former forum member). He has written an article on the topic, and, if you would like, I will post portions on this site for discussion. If there is no interest, I won't. image

Because James is such a good guy and honorable seller, I will also post a link to his website: (except that it is down for construction).

So here is the introduction:


The Numismatic Year Set - an Idea for Collectors

This article is a Copyright © of EarlyUS.com, March 9,2006 1


Most often, the method by which coins are acquired for a collection in an organized

manner falls into one of two categories: collecting by series, or collecting by type. Of

course, we may also legitimately pursue the hobby by merely acquiring coins that

randomly strike our fancy at some point in time, and there is nothing wrong with such a

disjointed approach, but generally speaking, most collectors prefer to have a

predetermined notion of the structure they would like their coin collection to reflect as it

nears completion. As with any pastime, the manner by which the collection is engaged

is wholly at the discretion of the collector, and there is no right or wrong way to do this.

The purpose of this discussion is to propose an idea that many collectors may not have

thought of, yet which should provide a challenge and plenty of numismatic satisfaction

in its pursuit. Furthermore, it should find appeal to both series collectors and type

collectors. It is a collection of coins that consists of one representative from each

consecutive year since the inaugural official mint issues of 1793.

As of the date of this article (March 15, 2006), that would be a total of 214 coins, since

there are no years in which zero coins have been produced by the United States Federal

Mint. The challenging aspect of this collection lies in determining what coin would be

most appropriate (or inappropriate) for each year, as there will be certain dates for

which the available possibilities are very limited, and indeed, there may be only a single

practical representative for many dates.


As is my usual philosophy, one of the most important driving forces in selecting coins

for this collection will be to pursue only issues which are practical candidates for

acquisition. Thus, our preference will be for coins that are affordable, attainable, and

available on today's market, yet present themselves attractively. There is not much

point in pursuing a set if the chances of ever completing it are nonexistent, but it just so

happens that there are no dates that feature zero Federally issued coins for practical

acquisition. In other words, we are lucky that there's at least one reasonably affordable

example of U.S. coinage for every year of mintage. Only collectors of the most meager

means would lack the ability to pursue this set.


Factors that affect the choice of coins for the set


It is true that the age of a coin is not directly a determining factor in its value, but it is

also generally true that, through the process of attrition, representatives of older series

tend to be the scarcer and more difficult coins to locate. So the logical progression of

this discussion will be to proceed more or less chronologically through the years,

beginning with 1793, since we expect these early dates to be most elusive. Later dates,

and certainly nearly every coin in the 20th century and thereafter, should offer no

difficulties.

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    BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    If you collect one coin per century, think of the anticipation

    waiting for the 22nd Century to roll around.image
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is an idea that I have bandied about for a while and recently discussed it with James Garcia (EarlyUS.com and former forum member). He has written an article on the topic, and, if you would like, I will post portions on this site for discussion. If there is no interest, I won't. image

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    Keep them coming, please. image


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, here's the next section:


    The Numismatic Year Set - an Idea for Collectors

    This article is a Copyright © of EarlyUS.com, March 9,2006 2


    Completeness: We want to be able to actually complete this collection, so the most

    important goal in pursuing this set will be to choose coins that are going to be

    attainable. Fortunately, there are only a very few years for which the supply of some

    coin is extremely limited, though there are several years for which the supply is limited

    to only one realistic choice. Consider 1793, for example. Even in the lowest grade of

    "Good", a representative for this year could cost multiple thousands of dollars.

    Thankfully, for the vast majority of dates, there will be plenty of choices. Generally

    speaking, the very earliest dates will be the most challenging, as the early mint's

    facilities and capabilities limited the variety of coins they were capable of producing.

    Still, it is rather remarkable and fortuitous that the typical coin collecting budget is

    sufficient to facilitate completion of a complete run of United States coins by date.


    Diversity: Especially in the early going, copper coins will prove to be the easiest

    examples to obtain for many dates - and still remain affordable. Thus, one might

    expect a preponderance of early copper in this collection, and we need to be cognizant of

    this so that the early coins in the set don't become monotonous in appearance. This

    being the case, we will want to choose something other than half-cents or large-cents as

    often as possible for dates earlier than, say, 1803, when bust halves present a silver

    alternative to the expected abundance of copper. Furthermore, at the earliest practical

    opportunity, it would be favorable to select occasional gold coins for the set. Affordable

    gold does not appear until 1834, when the early Classic Head coins were minted. So

    during the selection process, bear in mind that in a situation where there are multiple

    candidates for a year's slot, we may not always choose the least expensive coin if an

    opportunity to add variety to the collection presents itself.


    Cohesiveness: This concern deals primarily with the grade and appearance of each

    coin in relation to the others near it in date and age. Naturally, earlier coins will tend to

    be of lower grades, but there will be occasion to obtain a hoard coin - a coin that offers

    both availability and reasonable price due to an abundance of specimens. Not only is it

    feasible to acquire a coin for every year in a complete run of dates, but most often, there

    is at least one denomination that was minted in such abundance that a high-grade

    example can be acquired. As might be expected, only for the very earliest few decades

    will this be untrue.

    Let's turn now to a detailed look at coins recommended for this endeavor....next installment...
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a shorter version to read?image >>



    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image
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    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image >>



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    SilverstateSilverstate Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭


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    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image >>



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    Very straight forward.....
    Inexpensive........

    OK, PCGS.....Add them in there!
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image >>



    image

    Very straight forward.....
    Inexpensive........

    OK, PCGS.....Add them in there! >>



    I am not a registry player, but it would be an interesting idea for a registry set. One would be competing for both grade and type and would make for some interested weighting controversies.
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    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image >>



    image

    Very straight forward.....
    Inexpensive........

    OK, PCGS.....Add them in there! >>



    I am not a registry player, but it would be an interesting idea for a registry set. One would be competing for both grade and type and would make for some interested weighting controversies. >>



    I can already imagine the pissing and moaning.image
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    Interesting concept, I like the idea as long as the coins "... present themselves attractively" for all years.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can already imagine the pissing and moaning.image

    It would be a beautiful thing, no?

    "My 1794 S$1 in G-4 should be worth more than your 1794 1c in MS-65..."
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can already imagine the pissing and moaning.image

    It would be a beautiful thing, no?

    "My 1794 S$1 in G-4 should be worth more than your 1794 1c in MS-65..." >>


    It would certainly be interesting. image
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    That sure is alot different from what I was expecting; I thought you could only collect one coin per year. At that rate every one would croak before finishing their set.image
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That sure is alot different from what I was expecting; I thought you could only collect one coin per year. At that rate every one would croak before finishing their set.image >>



    That's the "One Coin Per Year of Life Date Set". Coincidentally, the last coin is usually dated either the year you die or the year before the year you die. image
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what are the most challenging years? for which years would you have the most choices? the fewest?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>what are the most challenging years? for which years would you have the most choices? the fewest? >>



    Well, grasshopper, these questions will be answered in the ensuing posts. image

    The only year with one option is 1816 (large cent).

    The most expensive year is probably 1793 (four options). If you avoid the large cent for 1796, it is probably the second most expensive year.
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    Sounds to me like an easy road to the Poorhouse.image
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if I wanted to do a "One Coin Per Year Type Set" of just colonial era coins? Could I get a coin for every year from, say, 1652 to 1792?
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What if I wanted to do a "One Coin Per Year Type Set" of just colonial era coins? Could I get a coin for every year from, say, 1652 to 1792? >>



    Believe it or not, I have actually thought of that. I would probably start at 1792 and work backwards, including such coins as Mexican silver, Brazilian gold, etc. It would probably a significant but enjoyable challenge.

    Nice avatar, BTW. image
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,614 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What if I wanted to do a "One Coin Per Year Type Set" of just colonial era coins? Could I get a coin for every year from, say, 1652 to 1792? >>



    Believe it or not, I have actually thought of that. I would probably start at 1792 and work backwards, including such coins as Mexican silver, Brazilian gold, etc. It would probably a significant but enjoyable challenge. >>


    Excellent concept for a collection! I'll get to work on it!

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What if I wanted to do a "One Coin Per Year Type Set" of just colonial era coins? Could I get a coin for every year from, say, 1652 to 1792? >>



    Believe it or not, I have actually thought of that. I would probably start at 1792 and work backwards, including such coins as Mexican silver, Brazilian gold, etc. It would probably a significant but enjoyable challenge. >>


    Excellent concept for a collection! I'll get to work on it!

    image >>


    Excellent! PM sent with coins for sale. image
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still, it is rather remarkable and fortuitous that the typical coin collecting budget is sufficient to facilitate completion of a complete run of United States coins by date.

    I want some of what this guy is smoking.

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have pondered the one-per-year set idea for myself and am currently in the process of trying to make it happen.

    The idea is not such a bad one but,for the typical collector of ordinary financial means I don't see this concept going much beyond a series or two series that adjoin.I would say that only 5% or less of collectors would have the financial ability to complete a year set,1793 to present, like the author talks about.

    For example,I am working on a one-a-year set of small cents,bronze issues only,1864-1942.The challenge for me,with cohesiveness,completeness and affordability in mind, will be finding the "right" 1877.

    I'd rather go without than settle for a relatively cheap beat up 1877 to go into my set of otherwise nice bronze cents.I guess I'm a collector with only the most meager of means.image

    My beat up 1877 would irritate the hell out of me everytime I got the set out to view.My amazingly toned (Naturally) 1942-S deserves better company.

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Clever idea...keep the installments coming!

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds to me like an easy road to the Poorhouse.

    My beater broke down at Mediterranean Avenue.image

    Where is this Poorhouse Place you speak of?

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm contemplating having at least one example in my year set for each of the mints in production 1864-1942 for both of the bronze series previously mentioned. So,I would definitely need to acquire a 1908-S OR 1909-S Indian cent.

    Another complete layer would be added to my set by including '08-S or '09-S IHC.

    Another layer that would add interest to my set would be to include all possible designer initials types.1864,no L and 1909 Lincoln with VDB on reverse would be required to completely add this layer. I don't need the pricey '64 with L,in other words.
    1909 V.D.B.,with all periods prominent, is the coin I would be seeking out for my set.

    1877 is a key Indian so I could,maybe should,go with a key Lincoln for yet another layer of "completeness." I've got it in mind that the key Lincoln for my set would have to be a '14-D.

    Anyone have any more ideas for another layer that I could consider for my set?



    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>If you collect one coin per century, think of the anticipation waiting for the 22nd Century to roll around.<<

    Even better: one coin per millennium! image

    My set's already complete - a 1999-D cent in XF and a 2003-P nickel in AU. A coin collection with deep historical significance! image

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even better: one coin per millennium! My set's already complete - a 1999-D cent in XF and a 2003-P nickel in AU. A coin collection with deep historical significance!

    Your millenium collection is not even complete unless you have a coin that a Viking lost or buried in North America 1000 AD or so.If it has the date "999" or before? We're talking really deep historical significance here.Why settle for less?

    Of course,to acquire the Viking coin you'll need,as described above,you'll have to have financial means beyond the most meager.

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I'm missing a coin from the first millennium, but I do have one from the millennium before that. Maybe the first coin from the Carson City Mint! image

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe the first coin from the Carson City Mint!

    That is an astonishing piece! Think of the stories it could tell if it could talk.

    The "3" in the date does look a little off to me.It might be okay but you might consider getting an expert opinion about authenticity since 39 BC is a popular year for collectors of zeroth millenium coins.Counterfeits are known for this year. I'm not sayin here that yours is but you would be prudent to have that checked out.Think of how much better you would sleep at night knowing that you have the real deal in your collection.I'll cross my fingers for you,okay?

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    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Next installment? image

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Next installment? image

    Lane >>



    Did you see this one?
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "There is another reason to choose the half-cent. Circumstances dictate that many of the early years after 1793 will be represented by large-cents, as the other denominations are either much scarcer, and therefore more expensive, or are entirely unavailable due to non-production by the Federal mint."

    Does anybody know what a HALF CENT could buy in 1793?

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"There is another reason to choose the half-cent. Circumstances dictate that many of the early years after 1793 will be represented by large-cents, as the other denominations are either much scarcer, and therefore more expensive, or are entirely unavailable due to non-production by the Federal mint."

    Does anybody know what a HALF CENT could buy in 1793? >>



    A coin that looks like this:

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "A coin that looks like this"

    Good answer, but I was thinking more in terms of groceries.

    “We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.” — Gautama Buddha

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    Yes:

    Obtain one coin for each year. The End. image >>



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    How about a shorter version with even less words and more pictures
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>How about a shorter version with even less words and more pictures<<

    Okay:

    One coin per year. image

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