eBay Gretzky RC Scam....oh boy

MULLINS5 · October 1, 2009 4:03PM

report this guy please, I already have. as you can see, the front says "Topps" and the back clearly is an OPC card...2 scans obviously stolen..PSA 4 to make a quick buck and try to pass under radar?

fake auction

Patrick

PhilliesPhan · October 1, 2009 8:50PM

I'm not sure that there is actually a problem with this auction. If you look at the sellers feedback, he just bought that exact card a month ago (Sept 1) for $149.50 , serial number matches. Maybe PSA graded it incorrectly as a Topps instead of OPC. Just my thoughts.

Greg

otwcards · October 1, 2009 9:50PM

Appears he's using the same scan/image as the previous auction for the front and may be using a stock image for the reverse. Based upon the fact that he purchased the item, I'm not too sure that there's a reason to report him.

Could be a scam? Anything is possible, but you go right ahead and making accusations based on looking at two "conflicting" images rather than doing some research. You may want to be careful about such claims because based upon the auctioneers' buying habits, sounds like there's the seller likes Katana swords and pretty large lingerie (and they're Canadian!!!).

vladguerrero · October 1, 2009 10:52PM

<< Appears he's using the same scan/image as the previous auction for the front and may be using a stock image for the reverse. Based upon the fact that he purchased the item, I'm not too sure that there's a reason to report him.

Could be a scam? Anything is possible, but you go right ahead and making accusations based on looking at two "conflicting" images rather than doing some research. You may want to be careful about such claims because based upon the auctioneers' buying habits, sounds like there's the seller likes Katana swords and pretty large lingerie (and they're Canadian!!!). >>

He paid $150 and his auction is almost hitting $300, maybe he's just taking part in eBay's "steal any images to represent your own" program, should have used a PSA 9.

Hey, hey, easy on Canadians!

And I would like to know, since when did size 14 large become large?

WinPitcher · October 1, 2009 11:54PM

If anything this guy is shilling the auction.

Steve

otwcards · October 2, 2009 1:06AM

<< And I would like to know, since when did size 14 large become large?

>>

The wife wears a 2-4. I realize that 14 isn't an elephant, but it is certainly a woman with a little bit of substance or a guy that isn't too imposing (always have to assume it may be a cross-dresser). I guess a 14 is a little smaller in Canada given the exchange rate...

vladguerrero · October 2, 2009 2:11AM

<< 

<< And I would like to know, since when did size 14 large become large?

>>

The wife wears a 2-4. I realize that 14 isn't an elephant, but it is certainly a woman with a little bit of substance or a guy that isn't too imposing (always have to assume it may be a cross-dresser). I guess a 14 is a little smaller in Canada given the exchange rate...

>>

Hey, thanks to your economy the exchange rate has been great for years!

And size 14 would fit a elephant, here or there!

MULLINS5 · October 2, 2009 3:29AM

If he is using another image, and the buyer gets the card in the mail (not being the card in the image) couldn't the purchaser return the card even if the seller states, "No Return Accepted" I didn't even think about the image sharing that the commies at eBay allowed recently...regardless the guy has a completely different card's back without stating a disclaimer on his auction...which could mislead some people into thinking they are taking advantage of a good deal, that perhaps PSA did mess up on a flip.

and yeah, it looks like he shills.

Patrick

diamondman · October 2, 2009 5:24AM

well if he is shill bidding , wait till he gets the FVF fees, but which shill bidder is he the guy with 0 feedback or the guy with 16 feedback?

shagrotn77 · October 2, 2009 8:13AM

Has no one here noticed yet the card in the holder IS an OPC and it's just mis-labeled??? Check out the trademark yellow dot on Gretzky's shoulder, which only appears on the OPC versions. Just another fine example of PSA's lack of quality control.

MULLINS5 · October 2, 2009 8:31AM

<< Has no one here noticed yet the card in the holder IS an OPC and it's just mis-labeled??? Check out the trademark yellow dot on Gretzky's shoulder, which only appears on the OPC versions. Just another fine example of PSA's lack of quality control. >>

This was the reason for my post.

Something is not right with this auction.

shagrotn77 · October 2, 2009 9:02AM

I agree that this guy is shilling the crap out of this auction, but it is not obvious to me that the front and back are different cards, unless I'm missing something?

DrJ · October 10, 2009 3:04AM

<< report this guy please, I already have. as you can see, the front says "Topps" and the back clearly is an OPC card...2 scans obviously stolen..PSA 4 to make a quick buck and try to pass under radar?

fake auction

Patrick >>

Are you going to report yourself when you Scam with your Rookie Reprints??????

DrJ · October 10, 2009 12:30PM

To the top. Since you edited out all of your replies to your earlier fake Gretzky scam, the board must know the truth!!!!

bbcemporium · October 10, 2009 12:41PM

<< To the top. Since you edited out all of your replies to your earlier fake Gretzky scam, the board must know the truth!!!! >>

While I didn't agree with Mullins5 about his original intentions of selling the counterfeit Gretzky, I do think he was very upfront with his intentions, so I don't see why it is necessary to continue this crusade. He was going to make a bad decision, brought the issue to the board, and decided against it.

DrJ · October 10, 2009 12:46PM

<< 

<< To the top. Since you edited out all of your replies to your earlier fake Gretzky scam, the board must know the truth!!!! >>

While I didn't agree with Mullins5 about his original intentions of selling the counterfeit Gretzky, I do think he was very upfront with his intentions, so I don't see why it is necessary to continue this crusade. He was going to make a bad decision, brought the issue to the board, and decided against it. >>

I hope he decided against it. All he had to do in the original thread was say he realized the error of his ways and he would not look to exploit counterfeits.

Instead he first criticized everyone who said it was a bad idea to sell counterfeits and then later edited out all of his posts.

We need people who are up front in this hobby. We have been burned many times right here in this little message board community by scammers. Anyone who is not up front with their transactions will be promptly brought to task for their actions.

okposo21 · October 10, 2009 12:55PM

his cards were stamped REPRINT, were they not?

They were in the scans he attached.

nightcrawler · October 10, 2009 1:01PM

<< the board must know the truth!!!! >>

This thread has nothing to do with reprints, it's about a fraudulent listing.

DrJ · October 10, 2009 1:04PM

<< his cards were stamped REPRINT, were they not?

They were in the scans he attached. >>

We have no idea. He edited out all of the damage in the thread.

DamageInc · October 10, 2009 1:13PM

What is this Hockey you speak of!!??.........lol (runs for cover)

okposo21 · October 10, 2009 1:21PM

Yes. And before he did he posted an image on page 2 of his card. It was stamped reprint on the back.

eBay Gretzky RC Scam....oh boy

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