Centering question on modern shiny football - WITH GRADES

lsutigers1973 · August 20, 2009 9:55AM

One of these cards is off T/B. I want to sub one. Only problem is I can't tell which one is centered best T/B. Please help. My starving swamp babies are depending on you.

alifaxwa2 · August 20, 2009 9:59AM

sub the one on the right

jswieton · August 20, 2009 9:59AM

I would say the one on the right has better t/b centering. Why not sub both?

lawnmowerman · August 20, 2009 10:00AM

Do you have other cards from the same set you can compare them too?

lsutigers1973 · August 20, 2009 10:00AM

<< Why not sub both? >>

If I sub both on the same order, surely one will get knocked down a grade for centering.

lsutigers1973 · August 20, 2009 10:01AM

<< Do you have other cards from the same set you can compare them too? >>

Negative captain. However, I never thought to check eBay for PSA 10's.

lawnmowerman · August 20, 2009 10:02AM

<< 

<< Do you have other cards from the same set you can compare them too? >>

Negative captain. However, I never thought to check eBay for PSA 10's. >>

Good call. I would do the same

lsutigers1973 · August 20, 2009 10:15AM

The last 3 PSA 10's from this set that sold on eBay were sold by shoelessjoe

tunahead08 · August 20, 2009 10:31AM

<< The last 3 PSA 10's from this set that sold on eBay were sold by shoelessjoe >>

Just get him to trim them for you before you ship them out, then you're good to go. I'm sure for an extra $5 he'd add a sick patch too.

lsutigers1973 · October 9, 2009 7:05AM

Forgot about his thread.

Based on the centering, how did this happen?

34 1 15987655 GEM MINT 10 2008 FINEST 114 MATT FORTE AUTOGRAPH
35 1 15987656 GEM MINT 10 2008 FINEST 114 MATT FORTE AUTOGRAPH

Is it possible that some graders have no idea how to judge centering on modern borderless cards?

OAKESY25 · October 9, 2009 7:18AM

for your viewing pleasure

lawnmowerman · October 9, 2009 7:21AM

The centering on the Favre on left is quite scary. It's off l/r as well.

storm888 · October 9, 2009 7:29AM

Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MBMiller25 · October 9, 2009 7:32AM

Holy SPIT Batman!

OAKESY25 · October 9, 2009 7:33AM

but with no defined borders it comes down to eye appeal...
if they were not sitting next to each other and you just took it at face value.. the cards are both 10's
they have no flaws and present beautifully

storm888 · October 9, 2009 7:43AM

<< but with no defined borders it comes down to eye appeal...
if they were not sitting next to each other and you just took it at face value.. the cards are both 10's
they have no flaws and present beautifully >>

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That would certainly be true, if there was no such
thing as an OC "borderless" card.

Maybe that is the case. ??? I dunno.

All I do know is that those two 10s were not created equal.

sdkcp · October 9, 2009 12:02PM

EDIT: I'm an idiot and didn't read the thread very carefully! But the following post WOULD have been my advice in August!

I know both the Forte and Favre cards don't have borders, but you know if the guys helmet or head is cut off a bit, the centering is probably off!

The Forte on the right looks better because of the "white" space between the top edge and his helmet. Also, the smaller bottom border looks better.

Compare those cards to this PSA 10 Refracter version, and specifically check out the arcs in the buildings behind him at the top left of the card:

PSA 10 Refractor on eBay

Either way, I like the Forte on the right, and that Favre on the right is much better than the Favre on the left!

If all the other things on the Forte cards are equal (corners, edges, surface), submit the Forte on the right!!!

halosfan · October 9, 2009 12:04PM

Sweet!

thedutymon · October 9, 2009 12:11PM

Bill,

Who is Matt Forte??

Neil

lawnmowerman · October 9, 2009 12:12PM

<< 

If all the other things on the Forte cards are equal (corners, edges, surface), submit the Forte on the right!!! >>

He already did

34 1 15987655 GEM MINT 10 2008 FINEST 114 MATT FORTE AUTOGRAPH
35 1 15987656 GEM MINT 10 2008 FINEST 114 MATT FORTE AUTOGRAPH

lsutigers1973 · October 9, 2009 12:19PM

I originally asked which one I should sub. No one seemed to know for sure so both were subbed together. I was willing to accept a PSA 9 OC on 1 as long as the other was a PSA 10.

SlAt · October 9, 2009 12:34PM

Bill,

Maybe you got the new grade PSA 10 OC! Crazy!

-John

sdkcp · October 9, 2009 12:44PM

Yeah I missed that post with the actual grades! I also didn't see the original dates, my fault...

Sorry about that!

But the one on the right is still much prettier!

VintageCardLover · October 9, 2009 12:51PM

nice score!

Centering question on modern shiny football - WITH GRADES

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