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1962 Franklin Half FBL ?.........Yes.....NO..... Opinions Please !Update grade in first post !

SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
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Update 11/11/09.......

1 15450177 6682 1962 50C US MS65
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    PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845 ✭
    I say yes, but in todays environment - too many marks across the lower left hand lines
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    ocon4008ocon4008 Posts: 1,703
    It may just be the picture, but the left side upper line kinda fades out and has that round hit. My guess is no.image
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    bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Yes for me!
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    image

    Can you tell me what is going on here?

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    PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    There lines are there... but chopped up for sure
    "It is what it is."
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS maybe. Depends on how they look at the breaks in the lower left lines.

    NGC no. Upper lines won't pass muster.
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    Can you tell me what is going on here?

    Yes, that is not a hit, it is a flaw in the planchet.
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    OK, the other "divot" to the right of that one appeared to be a flaw.

    This is a maybe then, far from "lock" but maybe at PCGS. Don't even think about sending this one to NGC.
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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭
    No. I would not consider that a FBL Franklin.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, the other "divot" to the right of that one appeared to be a flaw.

    This is a maybe then, far from "lock" but maybe at PCGS. Don't even think about sending this one to NGC. >>



    Funny you should mention this since there is also a thread asking id there are different "grading standards" between to different TPG's and this is one where they definitely differ!

    My vote is YES!
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    JupitarCoinsJupitarCoins Posts: 2,595 ✭
    No I dont think pcgs would call that fbl.
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    GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    I'd say "YES!"
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Herein lies the problem with Frankies.

    The collectors of this series put a really high premium on coins showing FBL's.
    Problem is........there is no real consensus on what the heck FBL's are.

    Show this coin to ten "experts" and tab the results, then show this coin to ten
    good old regular Frankie collectors and tab the results, then show this coin to
    ten coin collectors who don't really follow Frankies and tab the results.

    It would be interesting to see the results of that test.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    If "yes" is the true answer, I have no idea what full bell lines are. My first thought was not even close.
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Herein lies the problem with Frankies.

    The collectors of this series put a really high premium on coins showing FBL's... >>



    I'm not so sure I'd agree with you JR. Some collectors could give a rats ass about FBL, some do put a premium on FBL's, and some collectors do put a premium on well struck Frankies. The last 2 are NOT synonymous. I have seen a fair amount of FBL Frankies that have strike issues on other parts of the planchet. As to dollar premiums associated with FBL, well, that really popped up once the TPG's starting making the designation... before then (aside from really rare ones like a '53-S) the premium tended to be not too bad for FBL's.
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    BigMoneyLewisBigMoneyLewis Posts: 194 ✭
    Full Bell Lines ? Not even close.

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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    since i prefer NGC's way of doing things.. i say no. PCGS's way of doing
    things is too watered down for my tastes and i do not really consider
    it correct.
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    TinyTiny Posts: 2,598

    Tuff picture to tell from but I got to say NO
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    frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750 ✭
    I'd say yes. I've seen much less in FBL holders.
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    ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way.... look at that big crack in the coin... JUST KIDDING. I think it could have a chance so count me as a "maybe" image
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    bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    Looks like it could go 65 too. It behooves you to send it to pcgs, and more than once, if you don't get it the 1st time around.
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like it could go 65 too. It behooves you to send it to pcgs, and more than once, if you don't get it the 1st time around. >>



    really, more than once??
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    Looks like it could go 65 too. It behooves you to send it to pcgs, and more than once, if you don't get it the 1st time around.

    I agree, it's going on Tuesday...image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    PCGS - Maybe.
    NGC - No.
    MikeInFL - No.
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Herein lies the problem with Frankies.

    The collectors of this series put a really high premium on coins showing FBL's... >>



    I'm not so sure I'd agree with you JR. Some collectors could give a rats ass about FBL, some do put a premium on FBL's, and some collectors do put a premium on well struck Frankies. The last 2 are NOT synonymous. I have seen a fair amount of FBL Frankies that have strike issues on other parts of the planchet. As to dollar premiums associated with FBL, well, that really popped up once the TPG's starting making the designation... before then (aside from really rare ones like a '53-S) the premium tended to be not too bad for FBL's. >>



    Great insight and explanation Skyman.
    Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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    bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like it could go 65 too. It behooves you to send it to pcgs, and more than once, if you don't get it the 1st time around. >>



    really, more than once?? >>



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    MORGANHUNTER2MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭
    No its weak in the left corner bottom line and not just in one place look closely at the lower bell line.

    If that hits a 65 I am sending in 10 raw 62 Frankies on Monday.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    If that hits a 65 I am sending in 10 raw 62 Frankies on Monday

    Since I have been on this forum I have never stated that I knew for certain a grade for one of my or any body elses coin, because I suck at grading, well I have looked at a lot of franklins in the past year, raw and pcgs graded, I can't say for sure if they will give this coin FBL (the fist time around image)

    But I'd bet the dog ( no pun intended) and the ranch it's a 65 all day long.........image
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    btt..........grade is in
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