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My first Trime...please provide grade opinions??? **Grade revealed**

In all the years I have collected I have never owned a 3CS.....and when I got this in hand I was shocked at the size but the toning made my mouth water. So what do you grade it and what do you think about the coins overall appearance??? Not a great strike on this one but I know the strike strength can be all over the place with these little buggars..... image

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sure DO like it! But have no idea what to grade it. Hardly any marks, so it could be 58 or 64!?!
  • AU-50 to AU-55. JMHO. Very pretty coin.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not really a toning fan as it makes it difficult to apply a grade but I'd go along with the AU guess.
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I sure DO like it! But have no idea what to grade it. Hardly any marks, so it could be 58 or 64!?! >>



    I agree, and it is a very nice looking coin.
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell if I'm seeing wear or a weak strike in the pictures, so I'd venture AU53-55 if it's wear, and MS62 if it's a weak strike.



    << <i>.and when I got this in hand I was shocked at the size >>

    I recall (and I may be wrong) a time when a board member got bad feedback because the buyer thought the trime was too small. If I recall, the buyer also got it for something like $5.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin is impossible to grade from those pics because you can't evaluate the luster. Based on the coin's detail, it's at least an AU and most likely MS.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice! AU 55.
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  • << <i>This coin is impossible to grade from those pics because you can't evaluate the luster. Based on the coin's detail, it's at least an AU and most likely MS. >>




    I agree the luster really didn't come out in the picture like it does in hand...the color really pops of the surface......I will try to take some angled shots but it is pretty small so we shall see image
  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    My opinion is that Grip hit it square. AU-55.
    Nice toning , recutting on "AMERICA" & possibly
    the date, minimal marks.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wide range of guesses.

    It'll be an interesting reveal.


    (I don't know them well enough to offer a guess.)
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Looks AU to me.
  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825
    It's tough to call the AU-55 or MS-63.

    The contact marks in the opening of the C and the weak strick make me think MS-63.

    On the right day, you might get an MS-64 because the marks are on the reverse and the strike is nominally weak on the series.

    At first, the toning on the F made me blanch, but after looking at the coin in total, I bet this is a really eye popper of a coin. Nice pickup!

  • Good guesses all....this is certainly not my series so I am not familiar with the wear patterns vs strike weaknesses but after looking at other 1862's even in grades of PCGS MS66 and seeing a lot of missing details I felt a lot better about the grade on the holder. The luster is great on the coin and the color pops and I can't say I see any luster breaks on the coin in hand but at the price I paid.......I ain't complaining.

    So in honor of our usual coin mantra "Buy the coin and not the plastic" I present to you the GRADE:

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    Thanks a bunch for playing a long and I appreciate the lack of VG8 type grades that usually accompany any of these guess the grade type threads image
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think they actually have that one right. As they say about a broken clock.........
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  • << <i>I think they actually have that one right. As they say about a broken clock......... >>




    I couldn't agree more.....just making a point that ignoring all of these third world grading company slabs means one might overlook a diamond in the rough. I know the downside of purchasing these slabs outweighs the upside by a wide margain but if you know what to look for.....sometimes you can increase your odds exponentially in your favor. I was the only bidder on this coin.....image
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice buy, that's a really sweet coin!
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin!! Very very very nice for a 55. Belongs in an PCGS58 holder.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • If I were to submit to PCGS......would you think me mad if I submitted in the current holder for crossover or do you think I should crack and submit so the coin get's a fair shake?
  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭
    Go balls out...leave it in the holder.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    These are the kind of buys people miss when they buy the holder...

    I'd not want to sell the coin in this holder, but given how brutal the mainline TPGs are on color now, I don't know...
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I were to submit to PCGS......would you think me mad if I submitted in the current holder for crossover or do you think I should crack and submit so the coin get's a fair shake? >>

    Leave it in the holder. If it were NGC I might suggest otherwise. PCGS is pretty decent about nice coins in third world slabs. I don't think they feel threatened by NTC.
    Lance.


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    << <i>If I were to submit to PCGS......would you think me mad if I submitted in the current holder for crossover or do you think I should crack and submit so the coin get's a fair shake? >>

    Leave it in the holder. If it were NGC I might suggest otherwise. PCGS is pretty decent about nice coins in third world slabs. I don't think they feel threatened by NTC.
    Lance. >>




    NTC equals....New To Coins???? image


    They are quaking in their boots......just wish I could get CAC to sticker the coin.....now that would be hilarious image
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sweet trime! ..despite the plastic

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  • I've been looking at toned trimes and that one looks like the typical toning I've been seeing, about the grade I don't know. I have a similar dilemma with a piece I just acquired, if I was keeping it long term I wouldn't care who's slab it's in, but I think it may be the kind of piece that I would sell some month I've overspent so I would like to get it a bit more marketable.. They are small. aren't they?image


    PS it is very nice!!!image
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-58 / MS-62

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  • Along with a lot of other questionable stuff on my latest submission.....this coin was body bagged by NGC as part of my crossovers.....do you think I should have cracked it out?
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Shane, I wouldn't worry about cracking it from the NTC (worthless) slab. That would be a great album coin....Mike
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  • Well now it's in whatever NGC slab they put body bags in but I agree with you Mike....my opinion of the coin has not changed a bit...I still like it and I accept that NGC saw it a different way. Just becuase we pay for an opinion doesn't mean we will always agree with it image
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have cracked it out.

    the simple fact that it was in a ntc slab usually means that it was played with and wouldnt slab.
    though to me, this coin looks NT all day (just my opinion)
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