Is this a new SGC flip, old SGC flip, or not SGC at all?

corvette1340 · August 18, 2009 3:32AM

I've never seen an SGC flip like this.

'65 Topps Mantle

csmtampa · August 18, 2009 3:38AM

old flip

BigDaddyBowman · August 18, 2009 3:54AM

it is a very old flip from the early years of SGC..they then switched to the labels that are similar to the current ones but they had no 1-10 conversion scale...the current flips (used the last 5 years or so) have the 1-100 and a 1-10 scale on the flip.

corvette1340 · August 18, 2009 4:00AM

thanks. I had just never seen one of those before. They must have tightened up on their grading standards since then too. That is an ugly 8.

smtjoy · August 18, 2009 4:21AM

Yes grading was a little softer on the old flips, same goes for PSA old flips, got to be careful buying any for crossover.

lsutigers1973 · August 18, 2009 4:28AM

Definitely an old flip and very "unique".

corvette1340 · August 18, 2009 4:33AM

<< <i>Definitely an old flip and very "unique". >>

very. Odd, even.

otwcards · August 18, 2009 6:01AM

That is the "original" flip from the Joe Merkle days of SGC (they were preceded by the days when Merkle ran SBC). The second flip came to being around mid-1999 and then the final flip emerged (with the 1-10 scale added) in 2000. The only other changes since the new flip have been the reverse holograms and then the embossed etching.

Treetop · August 18, 2009 6:46AM

<< <i>That is the "original" flip from the Joe Merkle days of SGC (they were preceded by the days when Merkle ran SBC). The second flip came to being around mid-1999 and then the final flip emerged (with the 1-10 scale added) in 2000. The only other changes since the new flip have been the reverse holograms and then the embossed etching. >>

Does SGC's payback program include cards in these flips?

strangecreature · August 18, 2009 8:10AM

<< <i>I've never seen an SGC flip like this.

'65 Topps Mantle >>

I've seen those flips before. I just always thought they were from a different grading company and not sgc.

iamthegreatcornholio · August 18, 2009 10:47AM

65/35 LR and 67/33 T/B... it's technically within PSA 8 requirements although I doubt that matters this issue really stands out when OC.

stevek · August 18, 2009 10:55AM

Seller has a number of PSA cards for auction - might be a reason he didn't crack and submit to PSA. Just a total and complete guess, but it wouldn't surprise me if there's a spooned out wrinkle, that came back, on that card.