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Does it ever make sense to agree to a lower price when selling, but agreeing to a "bonus check&

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
I was taking a read through some issues of CW, and there is an ad by a big dealer. In several ads, there are testimonial after testimonial, where a seller sold coins to a dealer, and then several months later, a "bonus check" magically appears in the mail from the dealer, like manna from heaven, because the dealer sold the coins for a lot more money.

Does anyone know if this "manna" arrangement is made up front, where the seller agrees to a (possibly) lower price, with the understanding if a dealer sells it for more, that the seller will receive a little more cash at a later date? Or is this an arrangement where things are left unspoken, and the bonus check is just icing on the numismatic cake and really not expected?
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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I don't know, I'm still waiting for my Longacre bonus check to arrive!!!! image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I would imagine it is agreed upon beforehand. IE. If I sell it for more than X...I will give you Y% of the proceeds. This would make sense for coins that are rather difficult to valuate...like toned coins or ultra rare varieties.

    Either that or the dealer felt guilty because in the end the seller (original owner) was accidentaly taken advantage of. (Did I just end that with a preposition?)
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    StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭✭

    I bought a collection of raw coins earlier this year where several were borderline as to whether they would slab or not (due to old cleanings).

    The price that I negotiated with the seller was assuming that this small group would come back in Genuine slabs. In fact, some of the coins graded unimpaired, so I sent the seller a second check.

    Although I made the commitment up front to send additional funds if the coins graded, I don't think the seller really expected to receive anything, and was probably pleasantly surprised when the check later arrived.



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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was it written by the Old Man™ who visited Keets' coin shop? image
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    RYK,


    Hahahahaha



    I take everything I read in CW with a grain of salt. I expect nothing more than an honest dealer(s) that will pay fair market value for a coin, and sell it for whatever they can. If they make money on the coin, great. Otherwise I don't think there would be a lot of coin dealers out there. If it's said up front that if they bring more the seller would get a second check, I would expect them to live up to that as per the deal. If it was just casually mentioned as a side note, then I wouldn't expect much in any case. Dealers are not saint's. They are trying to make a living, not help collectors.

    Either way, I guess it boils down to the individual deal between both parties.

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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Sounds to me like less of an 'arrangement' and more of a 'marketing tactic'.

    Testimonials are never, ever to be trusted.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Marketing baloney.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    << <i>Marketing baloney. >>



    Ah, yes... but is it Hebrew National baloney... after all, they answer to a Higher Authority...image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    If true, it sounds to me like a dealer I'd much rather sell to than buy from. image
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,775 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Was it written by the Old Man™ who visited Keets' coin shop? image >>



    I had the same exact thought.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I would rather agree to a price up front and be done with it.
    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
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    zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825 ✭
    I have been wondering about the Mr. N. adverts in CW for a couple of years. Has any one dealt with the dealer? Is he held in high regard on the forum? I'd really like to have a couple names and addresses to put in the safe-deposit box with the coins in case something happens to me and the wife has to sell them off. You know a dealer or two that are honest. I always liked Mr. N's adverts, but CW is such a mixed bag of snakes, I can never be sure about any of the folks that run ads in it. And the expression "if you lay with dogs, you get fleas," keeps playing across my cortex with regard to CW.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NO, it is not a prearranged term. It is purely a PR tactic to be used as an indirect way of soliciting testimonials, the cheapest form of self flattery/marketing. Those bonus checks would never add up to the cost of an annual advertising contract in any form of media.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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