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What would the Eliasburg collection be worth intact today?

RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
Has this ever been estimated? Just curious.
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  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
    No idea... $500 million?
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the set is registered at PCGS as a historic set somewhere. One estimate could be made from the value assigned through the registry, although it wouldn't necessarily be a good one.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first impression was $500M, but then the more that I thought about it:

    I don't see coins these days going for 5 times what they fetched in Eliasberg 1996/97. The Lib nickel ain't worth $7M, nor the 1804 worth $9M. I believe those two sales fetched around $20M, so that portion is probably worth 3-4 times that amount. I'm guessing $75M.

    The gold? That's much tougher. Equal to? Double the other? Triple? If triple, which to me is farfetched, the entire collection is worth $300M
  • CaptainRonCaptainRon Posts: 1,189 ✭✭


    << <i>My first impression was $500M, but then the more that I thought about it:

    I don't see coins these days going for 5 times what they fetched in Eliasberg 1996/97. The Lib nickel ain't worth $7M, nor the 1804 worth $9M. I believe those two sales fetched around $20M, so that portion is probably worth 3-4 times that amount. I'm guessing $75M.

    The gold? That's much tougher. Equal to? Double the other? Triple? If triple, which to me is farfetched, the entire collection is worth $300M >>




    Was this set of auctions, during the beginning of the last upswing, or was this the cause of the beginning of the last upswing?
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Triple? If triple, which to me is farfetched, the entire collection is worth $300M >>


    There's some super-rare gold that hasn't seen the light of day in almost 30 years. Meanwhile, how many times have 1804 dollars crossed the auction block? Should the 1822 $5 bring $5M? How about his 21 and 27-D Saints? If the top 5 rarities brought 6-10x their 1982 prices, what would the rest bring? Was there an Eliasberg pedigree premium back then? Would the market be able to absorb a $300M collection within one year if sold at auction today? Would the possibility of 10 newly available 1933 Saints weigh on the market for this collection?
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The gold? That's much tougher. Equal to? Double the other? Triple? If triple, which to me is farfetched, the entire collection is worth $300M >>



    I've had the Bass catalogues sitting out for the last couple of months as part of doing some research on gold. Equal to, double, triple...that's about right to me. The common dates and grades are about the same, nicer stuff has doubled, and the high grade rarities have tripled. Weight them, and I'd guess the gold overall has at least doubled in value.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's easy to guess on what all the common stuff is worth. Where it gets hard is with the top pops, and depends on who is in the market at the time. A year or two back we were seeing crazy money for top pop seated stuff, that is no more.

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