The OFFICIAL 2009 Allen & Ginter Thread...LET'S SEE SOME RIPS.

K · July 14, 2009 12:33PM

Kinda upset with myself. After reading this thread I convinced myself to buy 3 boxes... Well in my haste to buy, I picked up 3 2008 boxes instead of the 2009 like I wanted! Oh well I'll have to pay better attention to the auction next time. Probably grab a few this weekend at a local card show.

DonnieD · July 14, 2009 1:26PM

I don't currently have enough available funds to get into the 2009 A&G game, but I'd like to trade for anyone's extra base & SP cards. I still have some 2008 A&G minis that I don't want, as well as some other misc. A&G minis and relics. I'm especially interested in the base Negro Leaguer and Champions cards. Here is what I have available:

29 assorted 2008 minis
16 assorted A&G back minis
6 black minis (148, 205, 216, 219, 234, 286)
7 SP minis (324 x2, 330, 333, 343, 344, 350)
2 A&G back SP (310 & 312)
1 black SP (318)

3 World Leaders (WL10, WL23, & WL44)
2 Worlds Icons (A8 & A16)
1 Shark (WDS4 )
1 Pioneers of Aviation (PA4)
1 Team Orange (TO10) - TRADED

2007 Sammy Sosa white no #

2007 National Promo set A&G mini cards
1 Babe Ruth - TRADED
2 Lou Gehrig - TRADED
3 Jackie Robinson - TRADED
4 Don Larsen - TRADED
5 Johnny Unitas - TRADED
7 Mickey Mantle - TRADED

2008 A&G Relics
Ryan Howard (jersey)
Carl Crawford (jersey)
Travis Hafner (jersey)

2007 A&G Relics
Manny Ramirez (bat)
Vlad Guerrero (bat)

Let me know if anyone is interested.

fur72 · July 14, 2009 1:42PM

I have everything sorted in numeric order now just need to put together need / trade list. I am actually missing two regular size SP's out of a entire case.

FYI Blasters at Target in Iowa. I had a friend pick up two boxes for me that I hope to get tomorrow. The sorting never ends!

parker95 · July 14, 2009 9:33PM

Would someone please post a retail wrapper so we can compare the odds?

It would be much appreciated!!

Craig in Texas

fur72 · July 14, 2009 9:56PM

<< Kinda upset with myself. After reading this thread I convinced myself to buy 3 boxes... Well in my haste to buy, I picked up 3 2008 boxes instead of the 2009 like I wanted! Oh well I'll have to pay better attention to the auction next time. Probably grab a few this weekend at a local card show. >>

No worries they will be good trade bait and I am sure you will have some nice pulls. Alot of us are still trying to finish off last years set.

TNP777 · July 15, 2009 1:15AM

Here are my available minis & relics. I'm not going to do the main set this year, with the exception of the base Dodgers.

National Heroes: NG13 (Lim Bo Seng), NH18 (Severyn Nalyvaiko), NH28 (Mustafa Ataturk), NH32 (Winston Churchill)
Creatures of Legend, Myth & Terror: Medusa (on hold for Jim Parker)
Hoaxes, Hoodwinks & Bamboozles: HHB3 (The Runaway Bride), HHB7 (Anna Anderson), HHB8 (Ferdinand Waldo DeMara), HHB15 (The Bathtub Hoax)
Black border minis: 77, 152, 239, 254, 287
A&G back minis: 1, 98, 99, 103, 105, 167, 177, 218, 237, 316
Base minis: 29, 43, 57, 65, 72, 88, 102, 107, 153, 172, 179, 185, 203, 261, 285, 293, 295, 297, 309, 312, 338, 340

I'm looking to trade for these Dodgers:

Base set (large): 69, 204
Crack the Code: 69, 113
Base minis: 53, 69, 286
A&G backs: 17, 53, 191, 314
Black borders: 17, 37, 69, 113, 117, 180, 191, 199, 204, 286, 314

akuracy503 · July 15, 2009 1:41AM

Remind me what would the big deal about blasters is?
If i've opened several boxes of hobby why would I pay 19.99 for a blaster?

Although last year I did pull a relic from 3 of 3 A&G Blasters I purchased.

HeritageAddict · July 15, 2009 2:17AM

While I myself have never had good luck with blasters, fellow board member nam812 did pull the King George cut auto from a blaster last year. Other than that, blasters are good for building sets, but that is about it.

BunchOBull · July 15, 2009 2:32AM

Okay, let's do some trading...I'm completely up to date:

A&G Trade List

I'm looking to finish the regular mini and mini inserts mostly, but the A&G back minis and Code Cards are also important.

2009 Allen & Ginter's For Trade:
Base: Base - ASK / SP Base - 302, 303, 304, 305 (x2), 308, 309, 310, 312, 314 (x2), 315, 316 (x2), 317 (x2), 319, 320 (x2), 321 (x2), 323, 326 (x2), 327, 328, 329 (x2), 332, 334, 335, 336, 337 (x2), 339, 340, 341 (x2), 343 (x2), 344, 345 (x2), 346, 347 (x2), 348, 350
Regular Minis: 38, 68, 122, 231, 250 (x2), 263, 277, 296 (x2), 313, 325
A&G Back Minis: 232
NNO Minis: Mark Reynolds (13/50), Delmon Young (46/50)
Bazooka Back Minis: none
Silk Minis: Yunel Escobar
Printing Plates: Francisco Liriano Black & Cyan
Blackborder Minis: 1, 19 (x2), 25, 42, 47, 54, 79, 99, 118, 129, 165, 175, 180, 227, 238, 242, 246, 247, 286, 328 (LaPorta RC)
Crack the Code: none
National Pride: Almost All - Just Ask
Relics: Blalock (Group A), Cabrera (Group C), Cameron (Group C), Chavez (Group A), DeWitt (Group C), Fosbury (track suit - Group A), Gallardo, Longoria, Mora (Group C), Ordonez, Rollins (x2), Quentin, Sabathia (x2) (Group Unknown), Sheffield (Group A), Sizemore, Teixeira, Thome, Utley
Autos: Alexi Casilla, Dick Fosbury, Cameron Maybin
Highlight Sketches: 8, 10 (x2), 11 (x2), 12, 20, 21, 22, 23
National Heroes: 1, 2, 6, 21
World's Biggest Hoaxes, Hoodwinks, & Bamboozles: 3, 7, 11, 17, 18
Creatures of Legend, Myth, & Terror: none
Inventions of the Future: none
Extinct Creatures: none

prscott933 · July 15, 2009 2:57AM

Ross, I'll take all of the black border minis. take a look at my list and let me know.

fur72 · July 15, 2009 7:10AM

<< While I myself have never had good luck with blasters, fellow board member nam812 did pull the King George cut auto from a blaster last year. Other than that, blasters are good for building sets, but that is about it. >>

I agree. I need a ton of minis thought and the two boxes I recieved had some I needed. Plus I cant resist when walking through target / wal-mart / shopko.

DonnieD · July 15, 2009 7:52AM

Some items gone, but a lot of minis and relics left. I'm interested in trading for your extra 2009 regular sized base cards & SPs. These previous year's minis and relics still available:

29 assorted 2008 minis
16 assorted 2008 A&G back minis
6 black minis 2008 (148, 205, 216, 219, 234, 286)
7 SP minis 2008 (324 x2, 330, 333, 343, 344, 350)
2 A&G back SP 2008 (310 & 312)
1 black SP 2008 (318)

3 World Leaders (WL10, WL23, & WL44)
2 Worlds Icons (A8 & A16)
1 Shark (WDS4 )
1 Pioneers of Aviation (PA4)

2007 Sammy Sosa white no #

2008 A&G Relics
Ryan Howard (jersey)
Carl Crawford (jersey)
Travis Hafner (jersey)

2007 A&G Relics
Manny Ramirez (bat)
Vlad Guerrero (bat)

akuracy503 · July 15, 2009 9:09AM

Who had the Norichika Aoki (japan) N43 relic? Please PM me if you are willing to sell..

mcadams · July 15, 2009 10:11AM

Saw this auction on Ebay and it made me crack up (auction # 370227958054). Seller describes their David Wright jersey relic as a "one of a kind bleached jersey card" and "1 of 1 (?)" evidently because the jersey pattern differed from that of some other Wright jersey card that seller apparantly considers to be the "base non-bleached" jersey card. Jeez.... As confusing as all of the insert sets can be for even an experienced collector, you've got clowns like this muddying the waters even more for the the unknowing. Total clownage..

joestalin · July 15, 2009 10:30AM

Ive been working from another case now, I think my luck has maybe run out. First two boxes had nothing, a total of 5 GU. Third box had a nice rip card in it
numbered to just 25 of Quentin. I bought 4 more today and the first box had a plate of Old Faithful..cool, next box just 2 GU...now thats 5 boxes with no
ink. Next box had an auto of some nobody. Last box had a chick auto...ok...so 7 boxes in just 2 autos, already pulled the case hit and the case hit mini. Should
I buy more from this case or leave it alone.

Thanks
Kevin

TNP777 · July 15, 2009 10:34AM

Why ask a silly question like that? We all know you're going to go back & finish off that case. You're fooling nobody here.

mealeworm · July 15, 2009 10:51AM

Bunch o B and Fur PM's sent

Dave

Ahzzy · July 15, 2009 11:26AM

what's the trade value on black minis? Are they worth as much as relics/autos? Odds state 1:10 so you get 2-3 a box on average, just like the "hits".

BunchOBull · July 15, 2009 11:31AM

In years past we've done 6 regular minis for 1 regular black mini...there are exceptions to the rule of course.

prscott933 · July 15, 2009 11:43AM

akuracy, PM sent

for everyone else: here is my updated list Trade List

ArchStanton · July 15, 2009 2:38PM

I found retail at the Target in Wexford. I just grabbed two. The minis were nearly all A&G backs.

Blaster #1

Blaster #2

joestalin · July 15, 2009 2:45PM

uh oh, blasters out of control again, how hard is it to insert the right odds topps? I can't wait for the blaster with only inventions and animals in it!

Kevin

PS..scan of the wrapper would be appreciated! Thanks

tm4537 · July 15, 2009 7:49PM

here is my tradelist

09 A&G needs

base- 116
baseball highlights-7
creatures-1,3-12, 14-16, 18-20
hoaxes-7, 8,15, 16
national heros-1-3, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 15-19, 21, 23, 24, 27, 28, 31-33, 35, 36, 38, 39
extinct animals- all
inventions- all
autos- alexi casilla, denard span
reg back mini’s- 350, 349, 347- 345, 343, 342, 339, 338, 335-329, 326, 325, 323, 322, 320-317, 314, 308-305, 301, 300, 298, 296, 295, 293-290, 288-285, 283-263, 261, 260, 258-256, 254, 252-239, 237, 235-231, 229-225, 222, 221, 218-214, 212, 211, 209-204, 202, 198, 196, 195, 193, 191, 190, 187-185, 183, 181-179, 177-174, 171-169, 167, 168, 164, 163, 161-157, 155-150, 148, 147-140, 138-134, 132-129, 127-117, 114-112, 110, 109, 106-103, 101-97, 95-90, 87, 86, 84-67, 65-57, 55, 53, 52, 50, 48, 46, 45, 43-39, 37-34, 32-30, 28, 27, 23, 22, 20-16, 14, 13, 11, 9, 8, 6, 5, 3, 1

09 available to trade
base- lots, just ask
sp’s- lots, just ask
reg back mini’s- 341, 337, 336, 262, 236, 224, 210, 194x2, 184 (damaged), 178, 133, 128, 115, 111, 89, 88, 44, 12
black border- 334, 317, 291, 278, 251, 244, 241, 237(damaged), 236, 212, 196, 170, 160, 156, 134, 121, 117, 105, 98, 76, 67, 62, 45, 39, 33, 20
a&g backs- 320,332, 328, 314, 295, 290, 285, 273, 272, 270, 268, 267, 259, 257, 251, 247, 245, 238, 226x2, 225, 223, 219, 206, 182, 170, 169, 165, 161, 159, 150, 145, 130, 127, 125, 120x2, 110, 104, 85, 77, 76, 57, 55, 54, 52, 47, 43, 36, 27, 14, 10
national heros- 5, 11, 20, 34
baseball highlights-23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 2
national pride- lots, just ask
hoaxes, 5, 9, 11
no #- dice-k, jon lester, adam jones
code cards- 300, 286, 274, 254, 245, 236, 233, 230, 222, 166, 141, 131, 129, 73, 62, 5, 4, 1
relics-mariel zagunis, dontrelle willis, yovani gallardox2, david wright, tim lincicum, chase utley, jim thome, koske f*kadome, ryan ludwig, chipper jones,ryan doumit, miguel cabrera, jay bruce, corey patterson, mark texeira, justin upton, carlos beltran
autos- conor jackson, justin masterson, scott olson
rip cards- (unripped) cameron maybin/99, rafael furcal/50

2008 Extras
Lots of Mini’s- reg, a&g back, and black border. Ask and I can look.
NO #- Dean Karnazes, Ben Franklin, Mickey Mantle, Rickie Weeks, Josh Willingham, Luis Castilla
Rip Card Mini- Hunter Pence
Bazooka Back- Ervin Santana
Sharks- Bull Shark x2, Tiger Shark
Aviation- Ornithopter X2, Piloted Glider, Aerial Steam Carriage X2
Worlds Greatest Victories- 7, 8, 14, 15, 17
Baseball Icons- Tris Speaker
World Leaders- 4x3, 7, 13, 18, 20, 24, 29, 36x2, 37, 40, 44, 47, 50
Ancient Icons- 2, 4, 9,10,15
Team Orange- Archibald Clinker
Manny Ramirez silk 6/10
Relics- Jeanette Lee, Lisa Leslie
Printing Plate- Ken Griffey Jr.

2007 Extras
Snakes- Copperhead, King Cobra
Emperors- Septimus Severus, Titus, Claudius
Flags- USA, Dominican Republic, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Chile, Algeria, Argentina, Portugal, United Kingdom, Philippines, Honduras,
No #- Andruw Jones, Mike Rabelo, Eleanor Roosevelt
Bazooka Back- Orlando Hudson, Mark Grudzielanek

BunchOBull · July 15, 2009 10:35PM

PM sent Travis

fur72 · July 15, 2009 10:42PM

Am I the only one that did NOT get an invention card in my case?

BunchOBull · July 15, 2009 11:12PM

<< Am I the only one that did NOT get an invention card in my case? >>

Retail will probably be loaded with them and extinct creatures.

ArchStanton · July 15, 2009 11:14PM

Here is a bad scan of the odds from a retail pack. I'll check the box ASAP.

parkerj · July 15, 2009 11:18PM

I opened a case + 1 box with no inventions or extincts. I have a retail case to open today, so hopefully you're right and i will pull a few today! Once i bust it i'll be ready to start trading in earnest. I have my trade page setup and updated, but more updates to follow.

i am building the
- baseball relics (as minis)
- a&G backs
- reg mini
- all mini subsets (extinct, future, hoax, national heroes,creatures)

all my other stuff is for trade

magellan · July 16, 2009 12:57AM

I got 1 invention card in my case, no extincts.

Jim, where was your retail from?

Dave

Knopfler · July 16, 2009 12:59AM

<< Damn, Lou Piniella did better in 4 boxes than I did in a case. WTG

Has anyone ordered from Lockwood? I'm now officially worried. >>

Yes, I ordered mine from Lockwood and still haven't received them yet. But I did talk to him on the phone a couple of days ago and he said he thought they would be shipping from the distributor this week and was waiting on customer service to send him tracking numbers. Hopefully they ship before the weekend, I need to rip some A&G!

prscott933 · July 16, 2009 1:00AM

i got 1 extinct and no inventions in my case.

HeritageAddict · July 16, 2009 1:06AM

Out of 15 boxes I got 1 extinct, but no inventions.

joestalin · July 16, 2009 1:10AM

I have opened about 2 and a half cases now. One case did not have either invention or extinct in it. I was lucky that a box that someone else opened
did and they left those at the shop which the dealer sold me. I have three out of the 10 total, this is going to be a tough set!

Kevin

magellan · July 16, 2009 1:13AM

<< Yes, I ordered mine from Lockwood and still haven't received them yet. But I did talk to him on the phone a couple of days ago and he said he thought they would be shipping from the distributor this week and was waiting on customer service to send him tracking numbers. Hopefully they ship before the weekend, I need to rip some A&G! >>

The reason I was a trifle worried is because I emailed him Monday with no reply as of last night. He normally is quick to respond. I trust Jack but was wondering if he had some sort of family problem. Your phone call makes me feel much better.

Thanks,
Dave

prscott933 · July 16, 2009 1:20AM

Thought I would add that I also have two complete base sets available for sale/trade (includes 1-350 and the National Pride Set).

TNP777 · July 16, 2009 2:38AM

Short Prints and Quirks in Allen & Ginter Revealed

Topps confirms that there are several unannounced short printed autographs, relics and inserts in the recently-released 2009 Topps Allen & Ginter. From Michael Phelps to the Invisible Man Autographs (black light needed), this year’s installment of Allen & Ginter features many surprises and whole lot of fun!

Short Printed Autographs & Print Runs
(all of the autograph subjects in the product including the ones below have signed 10 cards in red ink accept for Michael Phelps and the Invisible Man)
AGA-MC Miguel Cabrera 49
AGA-DW David Wright 49
AGA-JW Jayson Werth 49
AGA-JR Jose Reyes 49
AGA-JC Joba Chamberlain 49
AGA-DO David Ortiz 49
AGA-MH Matt Holliday 49
AGA-RH Ryan Howard 49
AGA-LM LaShawn Merritt 239
AGA-AT Anna Tunnicliffe 239
AGA-MZ Mariel Zagunis 239
AGA-WE Walton Glenn Eller 239
AGA-KA Kristin Armstrong 239
AGA-SB Stephanie Brown Trafton 239
AGA-DOW Dominique Wilkins 239
AGA-FE Frank Evans 239
AGA-AP Art Pennington 239
AGA-RM Red Moore 239
AGA-HS Herb Simpson 239
AGA-CP Clyde Parris 239
AGA-WW Willie Williams 239
AGA-MN Millito Navarro 239
AGA-BM Billy The Marlin 239
AGA-HT Hannah Teter 239
AGA-SD Shani Davis 239
AGA-CO Cat Osterman 239
AGA-RMA Robbie Maddison 239
AGA-BC Bob Crowley 239
AGA-RF Richard Fosbury 239
AGA-SW Steve Wiebe 239
AGA-WS Will Simpson/Archie Bunker 239
AGA-MM Mike Metzger 239
AGA-BBE Bryan Berg 239
AGA-IK Iris Kyle 239
AGA-BCA Brian Cappelletto 239
AGA-LO Loren Opstedahl 239
AGA-LC Lynne Cox 239
AGA-BY Brock Yates 239
AGA-JH John Higby 239
AGA-BK Burke Kenny 239
AGA-KM Kolan McConiughey 239
AGA-YM Yuto Miyazawa 239

Michael Phelps Autographs
Phelps has 8 different versions #’d to 8 and there is a gold 1 of 1 for each of the versions representing his 8 gold medals at the last Olympics.

Short Printed Inserts (Unannounced)
Inventions of the Future
FI1 AeroMobile
FI2 Clock Defier
FI3 Protecto-Bubble
FI4 Here-to-There-o-matic
FI5 Mental Movies

Extinct Animals
EA1 Velociraptor
EA2 Dodo
EA3 Xerces Blue
EA4 Labrador Duck
EA5 Eastern Elk

Creature Relics (#’d to 10)
Bigfoot
The Loch Ness Monster
Unicorn
The Invisible Man
Yeti

Creatures Autographs
The Invisible Man (only a black light will reveal the Invisible Man’s signature). These are limited to 10 copies.

Short Printed Relics & Print Runs
AGR-AR Alex Rios 90
AGR-DM Daisuke Matsuzaka 110
AGR-NS Nick Swisher 164
AGR-AP2 Albert Pujols 190
AGR-MR2 Manny Ramirez 190
AGR-AS Alfonso Soriano 191
AGR-RC Robinson Cano 195
AGR-HR Hanley Ramirez 199
AGR-EC Eric Chavez 210
AGR-MM Mickey Mantle 250
AGR-BTM Billy The Marlin 250
AGR-LM LaShawn Merritt 250
AGR-AT Anna Tunnicliffe 250
AGR-MZ Mariel Zagunis 250
AGR-WE Walton Glenn Eller 250
AGR-KA Kristin Armstrong 250
AGR-SB Stephanie Brown Trafton 250
AGR-DOW Dominique Wilkins 250
AGR-HT Hannah Teter 250
AGR-SD Shani Davis 250
AGR-CO Cat Osterman 250
AGR-RMA Robbie Maddison 250
AGR-BC Bob Crowley 250
AGR-RF Richard Fosbury 250
AGR-SW Steve Wiebe 250
AGR-WS Will Simpson/Archie Bunker 250
AGR-MME Mike Metzger 250
AGR-BBE Bryan Berg 250
AGR-IK Iris Kyle 250
AGR-BCA Brian Cappelletto 250
AGR-LO Loren Opstedahl 250
AGR-LC Lynne Cox 250
AGR-BY Brock Yates 250
AGR-JHI John Higby 250
AGR-BK Burke Kenny 250
AGR-KM Kolan McConiughey 250
AGR-MP Michael Phelps 250
AGR-AP3 Albert Pujols 255

Short Printed Base Cards
Cards 301-350 in the base set are short printed at 1:2 packs.

BunchOBull · July 16, 2009 2:52AM

So my Fosbury auto and relics were essentially my best hits this year. Kind of cool that I got the pair.

parkerj · July 16, 2009 3:03AM

so what are the 3 pujols relics?

ap = bat
ap2 = hat??
ap3 = jersey??

fur72 · July 16, 2009 3:09AM

AGR-WS Will Simpson/Archie Bunker 250

I got excited for a minute "Stifle, Edith!"

Just a horse hair

fur72 · July 16, 2009 3:10AM

<< so what are the 3 pujols relics?

ap = bat
ap2 = hat??
ap3 = jersey?? >>

I have a bat relic , I have seen a red cloth relic posted on this board. Last one I dont know.

tiller · July 16, 2009 3:22AM

<< Thought I would add that I also have two complete base sets available for sale/trade (includes 1-350 and the National Pride Set). >>

Im looking for a set. How much are you asking? Dave.

AragornTheBold · July 16, 2009 4:01AM

I also have a master set that contains 350 base cards, 75 national pride cards, and the 25 sketch cards if anyone is interested in that.

justmichael · July 16, 2009 4:12AM

The David Price Wood was pulled at my local shop.The same guy pulled a Cy Young 1/1 cut out of Series 1 2009 Topps about 2 months ago.
Mike

BunchOBull · July 16, 2009 4:40AM

<< The David Price Wood was pulled at my local shop.The same guy pulled a Cy Young 1/1 cut out of Series 1 2009 Topps about 2 months ago.
Mike >>

He must bust a lot of wax.

parker95 · July 16, 2009 4:45AM

Does anyone know if 301-350 on the minis, A&G backs, and black border minis are shortprinted?

Craig in Texas

P.S. Thank you ArchStanton for posting the retail wrapper -- that helps a lot!!

gumbyfan · July 16, 2009 4:56AM

<< 

<< so what are the 3 pujols relics?

ap = bat
ap2 = hat??
ap3 = jersey?? >>

I have a bat relic , I have seen a red cloth relic posted on this board. Last one I dont know. >>

I don't know the card number on my red cloth Pujols, but I can take a look tonight and share. After a quick search on eBay, there are 13 Pujols jerseys currently listed and only 2 are red cloth, the rest are gray. Of the 18 closed listings I see, only 2 are red.

gumbyfan · July 16, 2009 4:58AM

After purchasing a few lots on eBay, I'm down to 11 more code parallels that I need. If anyone is trading, here they are:

3 - Manny Parra
8 - Matt Cain
9 - Ryan Theroit
62 - Dan Uggla
69 - James Loney
73 - Vernon Wells
134 - Jered Weaver
159 - Denard Span
179 - Trevor Hoffman
210 - Johan Santana
300 - David Ortiz

Please PM me if you can help. Thanks!

parkerj · July 16, 2009 5:18AM

yeah, some of the red cloth are listed as jerseys, others as "hat" relics. and only some of them have the card # as AP2. none of them list the card as AP3.

mikeschmidt · July 16, 2009 5:20AM

<<Creatures Autographs
The Invisible Man (only a black light will reveal the Invisible Man’s signature). These are limited to 10 copies.>>

Have any of these turned up yet? Be curious to see what these look like

Knopfler · July 16, 2009 5:30AM

<< yeah, some of the red cloth are listed as jerseys, others as "hat" relics. and only some of them have the card # as AP2. none of them list the card as AP3. >>

I think AP3 is the pre-game used syringe card that Topps supposedly pulled from production.

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The OFFICIAL 2009 Allen & Ginter Thread...LET'S SEE SOME RIPS.