I had a couple nice looking Ryans from the 86 cello rip we did, dont think any will pull a 10. From the wax rip that followed I pulled a Schmidt and Carlton that I think have a shot at 10 but arent worth nearly as much as those Ryans. Next group sub I think I'll ship them out.
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Years from now that card will probably be $50 since there will probably be 10x more PSA 10's. Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened.
That's an ugly 10 at that, makes me want to look at my "not 10" stack of 86's again. The left side is rough cut and the bottom right has a soft corner. I was under the impression if the black stripe had any edge wear, it was a 9. There also seems to be a blue stain on the border. Looks like a 10 from a 1000 card submission.
"Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened. "
agreed, eventually there will be hundreds of PSA 10's of most modern crap, not that theres anything wrong with that.. but there are thousands upon thousands of unopened boxes of this stuff.
<< <i>"Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened. "
agreed, eventually there will be hundreds of PSA 10's of most modern crap, not that theres anything wrong with that.. but there are thousands upon thousands of unopened boxes of this stuff. >>
But you will spend over $1000 in wax before you pull a 10-worthy Ryan.
I guess others thought it was an ugly 10 as well. >>
Problem is, it may have just been the scan. The seller is known for having a dirty scanner, and doesn't help himself in this area. He also didn't respond to my request for clarification regarding the blue squiggle on the lower left border of the card. Therefore, I didn't place a bid on it.
<< <i>Years from now that card will probably be $50 since there will probably be 10x more PSA 10's. Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened. >>
Of course there is quite a bit of 86 Topps to rip but the set is very condition senstive for a number of reasons. Check the pop report there are several stars in this set that don't have a 10. Ryan cards demand a premium and I don't see an 1986 10 selling for less than $400 anytime soon.
Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own) :
<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own) :
<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own) :
<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own) :
Yeah, those giant sized scans actually make many high grade cards look overgraded. Many sellers seem to be putting up huge scans lately. Is bigger, better?? It doesn't seem to be the case with the jumbo sized card scans. Why do they do it?
Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. Not a card I'd put away with the intent of making some $$ off it someday down the road. Still, if you need to own it, more power to you.
<< <i>Yeah, those giant sized scans actually make many high grade cards look overgraded. Many sellers seem to be putting up huge scans lately. Is bigger, better?? It doesn't seem to be the case with the jumbo sized card scans. Why do they do it?
Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. Not a card I'd put away with the intent of making some $$ off it someday down the road. Still, if you need to own it, more power to you. >>
I disagree. Historically $400 is pretty low for that card (Any VCP help). It will hold its own as more people get involved in his registry. 86 Is a very tough year to get a 10 on certain cards.
I'm not sure what scanner can add edge wear and a soft corner to a card, maybe the blue smudge. The odds of "dirt" doing that to the scan at the exact point of the corner and along the edge is almost impossible.
<< <i>I'm not sure what scanner can add edge wear and a soft corner to a card, maybe the blue smudge.. >>
Scan a few of your best looking cards and blow them up-- you'll see exactly what a scanner can add.
This seller does a lot of stupid things (IMO), and making sure that everyone can see every minute imperfection on each PSA 10 he sells is certainly one of them.
<< <i> Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. >>
This prediction is the horse I'd put my money on.
I have a feeling that those with pockets deep enough to be dropping $500-$1,000 on one regular-issue 1986 Topps baseball card aren't too worried about the potential loss of value, however.
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<< <i>WHATS the pop report on that one now? >>
11 10's out of 629 graded.
Steve
agreed,
eventually there will be hundreds of PSA 10's of most modern crap, not that theres anything wrong with that.. but there are thousands upon thousands of unopened boxes of this stuff.
<< <i>but there are thousands upon thousands of unopened boxes of this stuff. >>
Hatter
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Hatter >>
<< <i>"Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened. "
agreed,
eventually there will be hundreds of PSA 10's of most modern crap, not that theres anything wrong with that.. but there are thousands upon thousands of unopened boxes of this stuff. >>
But you will spend over $1000 in wax before you pull a 10-worthy Ryan.
I guess others thought it was an ugly 10 as well.
<< <i>Winning bid: US $476.78
I guess others thought it was an ugly 10 as well. >>
Problem is, it may have just been the scan. The seller is known for having a dirty scanner, and doesn't help himself in this area. He also didn't respond to my request for clarification regarding the blue squiggle on the lower left border of the card. Therefore, I didn't place a bid on it.
Steve
<< <i>Years from now that card will probably be $50 since there will probably be 10x more PSA 10's. Just over-produced 80's hype with countless unopened material still waiting to be opened. >>
Of course there is quite a bit of 86 Topps to rip but the set is very condition senstive for a number of reasons. Check the pop report there are several stars in this set that don't have a 10. Ryan cards demand a premium and I don't see an 1986 10 selling for less than $400 anytime soon.
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I just reported it to ebay. We'll see if they do anything.
Steve
<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own)
'86 Ryan
I just reported it to ebay. We'll see if they do anything.
Steve >>
Ebay must be doing their job, it's already gone.
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<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own)
'86 Ryan
I just reported it to ebay. We'll see if they do anything.
Steve >>
Ebay must be doing their job, it's already gone. >>
Sweet!!!!!!!!
Chalk up one for us good guys
Steve
<< <i>Check this one out (zero-feedback seller, been on ebay for a week, stole the scan from the previous auction and is now trying to sell it as his/her own)
'86 Ryan
I just reported it to ebay. We'll see if they do anything.
Steve >>
Damn, that got removed quick...Donato
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Too bad their isn't very many out their
Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. Not a card I'd put away with the intent of making some $$ off it someday down the road. Still, if you need to own it, more power to you.
<< <i>Yeah, those giant sized scans actually make many high grade cards look overgraded. Many sellers seem to be putting up huge scans lately. Is bigger, better?? It doesn't seem to be the case with the jumbo sized card scans. Why do they do it?
Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. Not a card I'd put away with the intent of making some $$ off it someday down the road. Still, if you need to own it, more power to you. >>
I disagree. Historically $400 is pretty low for that card (Any VCP help). It will hold its own as more people get involved in his registry. 86 Is a very tough year to get a 10 on certain cards.
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My Sandberg Topps Master set
<< <i>That was a nice looking Ryan.
Too bad their isn't very many out their >>
....but there ARE very many out there....thousands unopened
<< <i>I'm not sure what scanner can add edge wear and a soft corner to a card, maybe the blue smudge.. >>
Scan a few of your best looking cards and blow them up-- you'll see exactly what a scanner can add.
This seller does a lot of stupid things (IMO), and making sure that everyone can see every minute imperfection on each PSA 10 he sells is certainly one of them.
<< <i> Once another 10 PSA 10's get graded, that '86 Ryan will be a $100-150 card at best. >>
This prediction is the horse I'd put my money on.
I have a feeling that those with pockets deep enough to be dropping $500-$1,000 on one regular-issue 1986 Topps baseball card aren't too worried about the potential loss of value, however.
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